Hi Diane, I am a relative novice in this field but here are some thoughts. Lots of women 'hunch over' with the cross cradle hold, many tend to bring the breast to the baby, not the baby to the breast. And it is sad if this is the only hold mom has been taught. This is the biggest bee in my bonnet and burr under my saddle: that this is the only position a mom knows. I like it sometimes in the beginning while mom/baby are learning, but teach other holds as well. I keep a small doll in my pocket for this purpose. Most mothers at my hospital use the cradle hold, and are often positioned and starting a feeding when I walk in. Most of the nurses here are great! I love to teach side-lying position, it empowers mothers to handle night fdgs. or rest for an afternoon nap. Sleepy babies seem to stay awake better on the firm mattress, compared to a mother's warm soft arms and lap. I am intrigued by Catherine's post today about not supporting the breast at all. Revolutionary! I'm looking forward to trying this. I'll be watching for how many mothers are not supporting the breast and things are fine; not broken and not in need of fixing. Thanks for the dialogue. Susan in Minnesota, USA rn ibclc The information transmitted in this e-mail is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material, including "protected health information". If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please destroy and delete this message from any computer and contact us immediately by return e-mail. <<<<P.H.I.>>>> *********************************************** To temporarily stop your subscription: set lactnet nomail To start it again: set lactnet mail (or digest) To unsubscribe: unsubscribe lactnet All commands go to [log in to unmask] The LACTNET mailing list is powered by L-Soft's renowned LISTSERV(R) list management software together with L-Soft's LSMTP(TM) mailer for lightning fast mail delivery. For more information, go to: http://www.lsoft.com/LISTSERV-powered.html