I encourage mothers to become proficient in BFing in a lying down position and a sitting up position early on. Lying down gives you less help from your arms if you need them, sitting up can be uncomfortable with a sore perineum. Practice is what makes perfect, and that fits so well with the frequent feeds in the first days after birth. My rationale is, it's great not to have to get out of bed to feed in a chair, and it's equally great not to have to find a place to lie down when you're out on the town. (Sooner or later our furniture store is going to catch on, that all those women with prams are NOT actually shopping for beds.) I didn't mean to say earlier that all we have to do is step back and let babies sort it out. I meant that we should look at the films from Sweden on self-latch, read the research about how it disturbs the process to separate mothers and babies, and really LEARN what it is the self-latching babies are doing, step by step, so we can see how to support that happening in all kinds of positions. (I always think about that wonderful photo of the woman hanging by her heels from a trapeze, breastfeeding her baby, when I say that.) Rachel Myr climbing out of the trenches after a pretty good day here, in Kristiansand, Norway *********************************************** To temporarily stop your subscription: set lactnet nomail To start it again: set lactnet mail (or digest) To unsubscribe: unsubscribe lactnet All commands go to [log in to unmask] The LACTNET mailing list is powered by L-Soft's renowned LISTSERV(R) list management software together with L-Soft's LSMTP(TM) mailer for lightning fast mail delivery. For more information, go to: http://www.lsoft.com/LISTSERV-powered.html