Gee, Jan, you do realize, don't you, that you've just described nurses' positions within the hospital structure? All the responsibility for low pay, no autonomy, and no respect. Kinda describes being a parent, too. My oldest daughter said it all when she said, "Why would anyone want to be a nurse when you don't make any money, you have to do everything, and nobody respects you?" Out of the mouths of babes (although she's 21 years old!) And I don't believe that it's coincidence that most hospital-based LCs who are doing this are also RNs. Old habits die hard. We should all be contracting with hospitals for our services (just like the docs do), as both LCs and as RNs, but I'm not sure in whose lifetime this will occur. Pam Hirsch, RN,BSN,CLC Clinical Lead, Lactation Services Advocate Good Shepherd Hospital Barrington, IL USA *********************************************** To temporarily stop your subscription: set lactnet nomail To start it again: set lactnet mail (or digest) To unsubscribe: unsubscribe lactnet All commands go to [log in to unmask] The LACTNET mailing list is powered by L-Soft's renowned LISTSERV(R) list management software together with L-Soft's LSMTP(TM) mailer for lightning fast mail delivery. For more information, go to: http://www.lsoft.com/LISTSERV-powered.html