well i just flat out state that i do not recommend those pumps as so far i do not recall having one client who favorably reviewed it. mothers tell me they hurt and do not get the milk out, or it takes one hour. i tell the family the mother is at risk for engorgement and low milk supply and i emphasize the crucial early days and the amount of time it will take to pump w/ a poor pump. Analogies I use: you can get to work on a bicycle but it is easier, faster, and much more pleasant to drive a mercedes benz to work. you can chop all your vegetables by hand or you can use the super duper cuisinart. (food chopper). i say 'you want something quick and easy and effective.' Laurie Wheeler, IBCLC, MN, RN New Orleans Louisiana, s.e. USA _________________________________________________________________ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail *********************************************** To temporarily stop your subscription: set lactnet nomail To start it again: set lactnet mail (or digest) To unsubscribe: unsubscribe lactnet All commands go to [log in to unmask] The LACTNET mailing list is powered by L-Soft's renowned LISTSERV(R) list management software together with L-Soft's LSMTP(TM) mailer for lightning fast mail delivery. For more information, go to: http://www.lsoft.com/LISTSERV-powered.html