> Perhaps all > maternity/post-partum/NICUs should have a herd of goats out back, for moms > who haven't had the experience. ::applauding:: Hear hear! :-) I ALWAYS mention to moms in our bf support group meetings (monthly) that before investing in a pump, they should try hand expression (I tell them when they're engorged on day 3 or so, to get under a nice warm shower and try there, where they don't have to aim to begin with...just get used to the idea of expressing). Some women do seem to prefer a pump...maybe it's partly cultural or a certain mind-set. However, I see no point in wasting money if you find you're good at hand expression. However, I have one comment to add to your idea Kathy: maybe it would be better to include goat milking in prenatal classes...not during the immediate post-partum period when mom should be busy getting to know Baby and learning to bf adequately. :-) Fio. ressource person with Allaitement Québec Mama to Sandrine, 25 mos! and #2, 11/2002 *********************************************** The LACTNET mailing list is powered by L-Soft's renowned LISTSERV(R) list management software together with L-Soft's LSMTP(TM) mailer for lightning fast mail delivery. For more information, go to: http://www.lsoft.com/LISTSERV-powered.html