I think the reason hospitals continue as they do is just that....moms want to just get their baby home. They don't all have the support or information they need, very very few have the voice they need even if they have the information. So, instead, they just "do as I am told" and "obey" so they can get their baby home to safety. Sad, but true. I agree that in the US the only way we will see a drastic turn around in the care of mothers and infants is a major lawsuit. I hope one of you plan on having a baby so you can do it, because I quit at 6, and I don't even want to go back to a hospital birth for the adventure. (I have often threatened to change pediatricians and go to this scary man who really should not even talk to mothers who breastfeed, just so I can make his life miserable while I educate him, but truly, don't have the energy.) Best, Pam MazzellaDiBosco, IBCLC FL,USA *********************************************** The LACTNET mailing list is powered by L-Soft's renowned LISTSERV(R) list management software together with L-Soft's LSMTP(TM) mailer for lightning fast mail delivery. For more information, go to: http://www.lsoft.com/LISTSERV-powered.html