Gailo wrote about "in-between latches" and Winnie answered <My first questions is assessing a feed are "Are there deep jaw excursions (DJEs)?"> I have heard the actual phrase before, but I have never seen the abbreviation before. I think it is a very helpful one, just as MER has been. It sure "upped" the importance in my eyes of watching for this! I like "in-between latch" as terminology too. Come to think of it, I see many of these, and this will help me to explain it better to moms. Jean *********** K. Jean Cotterman RNC, IBCLC Dayton, Ohio USA *********************************************** The LACTNET mailing list is powered by L-Soft's renowned LISTSERV(R) list management software together with L-Soft's LSMTP(TM) mailer for lightning fast mail delivery. For more information, go to: http://www.lsoft.com/LISTSERV-powered.html