Karen, Why is it so easy for moms to "know" about pumps, and yet not know where to get breastfeeding information and help? Why do they come in to the process expecting difficulty and failure? Most of the moms I see have only negative stories from friends, have not attended a bf class, and yet seem to "know" that pumps are used when there are problems, which apparently are assumed to be inevitable. Bravo that in spite of all the negativity and bottle thinking, they are choosing to breastfeed ANYWAY! I just don't like the automatic association of breastfeeding/pumping as a given. I would like to try to paint a different picture. Respectfully, Patricia Ellis, RN, MA, IBCLC "Do unto others as you would have others do unto you." *********************************************** The LACTNET mailing list is powered by L-Soft's renowned LISTSERV(R) list management software together with L-Soft's LSMTP(TM) mailer for lightning fast mail delivery. For more information, go to: http://www.lsoft.com/LISTSERV-powered.html