Winnie writes: << If so, are the same [insurance] companies covereing LC services, pump rentals, etc. for their subscribers? >> Without knowing the specific cases, I can almost confidently answer: they are if their subscribers are paying premiums that include it, and they are not if not. They are not charitable organizations, and their customers are price sensitive. Big employers negotiate with their insurers about exactly how much their premiums will be and what they will get for them. If lots of their employees want pumps --- or eyeglasses, or mental health care -- so much that they are willing to pay an increased premium throughout the organization to cover it, then it will be in. It's true of course that the inclusion of pumps helps normalize bf (or at least pumping...). It's even more true, however, that until its already normalized there won't be any reason for employers or insurers to suggest putting it into plans. But the underlying question is whether everybody -- society, let's say, or at least the society of one's fellow employees -- should cover the costs of your pump, or whether the family using it should cover it. Seems to me that reasonable people could disagree on this. Elisheva Urbas personally in favor of socialized medicine, but I'm in the small, small minority in the USA, realistically *********************************************** The LACTNET mailing list is powered by L-Soft's renowned LISTSERV(R) list management software together with L-Soft's LSMTP(TM) mailer for lightning fast mail delivery. For more information, go to: http://www.lsoft.com/LISTSERV-powered.html