Linda Pohl wrote: >I remind them that the BABY is in approximately the same position >regardless of the MOTHER's position. I'm not sure what you mean by this. A baby in a football hold is reclining -- between sitting up and lying down -- and a baby in a cradle or transitional hold is lying on his side, not on his back. A baby being nursed in a side-lying position can be in one of several positions, propped up in different ways on pillows, for instance. I would say that a comfortably positioned baby is seldom flat on his back (although this sometimes works for a really bad plugged duct, in a variation of the breast-in-the-sink position). Incidentally, I agree that we should "never say never". We certainly shouldn't assume that BF is the cause of ear infections, that night nursing causes dental caries, etc. However, certain babies react in specific ways to different positions -- I'm thinking of how homeopaths, chiropractors and cranio-sacral therapists would consider positioning as a contributing factor to pain or breast refusal. Jo-Anne, mother of invention of the "sloppy latch", in which a baby must be put in a position that looks impossible (amateurs: don't try this at home and teachers: don't demonstrate this in class) *********************************************** The LACTNET mailing list is powered by L-Soft's renowned LISTSERV(R) list management software together with L-Soft's LSMTP(TM) mailer for lightning fast mail delivery. For more information, go to: http://www.lsoft.com/LISTSERV-powered.html