Peggy, this discussion has raised another question. Did you compare -- or as far as you know does anyone have any data that could be used for comparison -- between babies who got that sucrose suck 20 minutes before some procedure, on the one hand, and babies who were held and nursed, as Diane points out, before? I guess lots of people who do circs won't agree to a full tummy before they start, and so for those poor babies the sucrose before could go along with a quick trip to breast right after. But certainly for heel sticks, etc, if nurse-and-hold works as well -- and it does seem intuitive that it would work *at least* as well, though data would be nice -- then sucrose pacifiers would be de trop, at least for bf babies. Any thoughts? Elisheva Urbas NYC *********************************************** The LACTNET mailing list is powered by L-Soft's renowned LISTSERV(R) list management software together with L-Soft's LSMTP(TM) mailer for lightning fast mail delivery. For more information, go to: http://www.lsoft.com/LISTSERV-powered.html