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LACTNET December 2008, Week 2

Subject:

Re: Oxfam GB :)) :-(

From:

Karleen Gribble <[log in to unmask]>

Reply-To:

Lactation Information and Discussion <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Thu, 11 Dec 2008 09:29:55 +1100

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Yeah I know and it is not good.
Karleen Gribble
Australia
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Morgan Gallagher" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 9:23 AM
Subject: Re: Oxfam GB :)) :-(


> It does require them to 'fess up and say sorry 'tho.
>
> They still haven't done so.    Neither have they removed the image,
> which is being seen by thousands of people, daily, and lauded as A Good
> Thing.
>
> When the image goes, and they state it was inappropriate, then is the
> time to give them slack.  Whilst they continue to go "la la la la" as
> they stick their fingers in their ears, they'll still not get a penny of
> my money.  Not when the money can go to people who do good on the ground
> and don't use bottle images.  Accountability, and all that.  They have
> to show willing too.  Making mistakes is one thing - refusing to
> acknowledge it, or undo the harm, quite another.
>
> Image still there - still being seen, day in, day out.  Oxfam still
> putting their name to it....
>
> Morgan Gallagher
>
> Karleen Gribble wrote:
>> Hi Morgan,
>> I think that many aid orgs have difficulty getting their PR people to
>> understand about bottles and formula and also that the best response
>> when a mistake is discovered is to fess up and say sorry. It's
>> unacceptable but doesn't necessarily mean that what happens on the
>> ground is bad. Mistakes like these are a reflection of the culture
>> from which the workers come. We just need to keep at them so that they
>> become part of changing the culture.
>> Karleen Gribble
>> Australia
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Morgan Gallagher"
>> <[log in to unmask]>
>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>> Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 6:47 AM
>> Subject: Re: Oxfam GB :)) :-(
>>
>>
>>> Oxfam GB also stated recently a baby bottle is "an object that
>>> represents motherhood" and refused to either accept that a baby bottle
>>> was an unacceptable image in a video they helped make, promoting the end
>>> to world hunger and poverty, or to refute their response-to-complaints
>>> statement that it is "an object that represents motherhood".
>>>
>>> If you are sending money to Oxfam GB, you need to consider their
>>> attitude to baby bottles, and their disregard of baby bottle deaths.
>>> Many of the other Oxfam groups, similarly echoed the sentiment that
>>> having a baby bottle to represent motherhood in such a video, was Not A
>>> Big Deal.  It's in light of this, that Oxfam USA are offering baby
>>> bottles in their unwrapped presents.
>>>
>>> http://one-of-those-women.blogspot.com/2008/09/oxfam-not-in-my-name.html
>>>
>>> http://one-of-those-women.blogspot.com/2008/09/shame.html
>>>
>>> http://one-of-those-women.blogspot.com/2008/10/if-you-are-cancelling-your-oxfam-sub.html
>>>
>>>
>>> Oxfam GB also tried to use Baby Milk Action's name, as a 'defence' of
>>> their actions - without mentioning it to Baby Milk Action.
>>>
>>> Morgan Gallagher
>>>
>>> Rachel O'Leary wrote:
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> Oxfam GB does not have any artificial feeding products on its
>>>> Unwrapped gift list. It also sometimes funds the work of Baby Milk
>>>> Action, the British IBFAN group :)))
>>>>
>>>
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