Laurie, I don't disagree at all with where you're coming from.  My point is
that I'm losing viable months where I could be doing hours during the period
where the exam is being corrected.  I realize that if she were to fail the
exam, my hours would be invalid upon receipt of her results.

However, I'm not asking to stretch the rules backward into the period before
the exam.  I do agree that per the rules, she should have to recertify and
that I shouldn't begin logging hours before she has sat for the exam.  (An
IBCLC who hasn't recertified by CERPS or exam every five years is not an
IBCLC, their credential would have lapsed.)

To further the logistical difficulty of the situation, Pathway 3 paperwork
is due by September 30th of the year prior to when the exam is taken.  Thus,
if I want to mentor with someone recertifying for the first time this year,
it's impossible to submit that paperwork on-time, as she won't have her
results until late October.

So, I agree that there should be a line:  I'm just saying that perhaps the
line should be when she's sitting for the exam in July, not when she has her
results in-hand in October.  Doing it prior to her sitting for the recert
exam would be inappropriate.

I hope all that makes sense. It's all pretty convoluted.

Amy
(who's been going through this exercise in frustration for months now, to no
end).

On Sun, Jun 20, 2010 at 10:40 AM, <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> Laurie says:
>
>
> <<If IBLCE allows candidates to work with someone starting in  May (prior
> to
> taking first recert in July), then there will be other  candidates who
> would
> ask to 'stretch the rules' to maybe March, or have a  mentor who has been
> an
> IBCLC for 30 yrs but has never recertified, but is  planning to, and it's
> June?
> Do you see where I am coming from? They have  to draw the line somewhere.
> What I am saying, and I don't think this will  be a popular statement, is
> that the candidate did not select a qualified  mentor (one who had passed a
> recert already). I am sure that finding a  qualified mentor is not easy,
> sorry.>>
>
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>
> I think you've made some very good points, but I do want to mention  a
> couple of things -- for one, if someone has been an IBCLC for 30 years and
> never recertified, then she is no longer an IBCLC, and hasn't been one for
> 25
> years.  And if she is planning to take the exam in July to "recertify",
> she's not recertifying, she is starting over and has to jump through
> whatever
> hoops are currently required.
>
> Secondly, I was under the impression that the candidate was going  to start
> her hours with the mentor AFTER she had sat for the exam on July  26.  In
> which case, it is an interesting conundrum -- are you recertified  after
> you
> take the exam and pass it, or are you not recertified until IBLCE gets
> around to grading ALL the exams and sending out the notices?
>
> IF this mentor had chosen to recertify by CERPs -- which, if it is  the
> first time she is recertifying -- she could have done -- and she had sent
> in
> all the paperwork and the fees by -- oh, say March 31 -- would she  then be
> recertified at that time?  Or not until October 31 which is when  her
> current
> IBCLC expires?
>
> Interesting discussion -- and very interesting thoughts about the
> requirements for 2012.
>
> I do find it interesting that they require biology AND A&P --  but not
> microbiology which is far more pertinent to our field.  Anatomy  &
> Physiology
> makes a lot of sense.  Not biology so much.  I've not  taken biology since
> high school, though I am an RN.  I have had  microbiology though.
>
> Also, I'm not sure I understand why "Safety" for medical  professionals
> since a safety course is taught at hospitals and is particularly a
>  hospital
> concern -- and the course would vary from hospital to hospital as  included
> would be where the fire alarms are, and which doors close during a  fire,
> and
> what to do in case of a tornado, and that sort of thing.   Ethics?  Yes --
> but how much ethics?  If a 45 hour course teaches one  hour of ethics, does
> that count for the continuing education in  ethics?
>
> Jan Barger, RN, MA, IBCLC, FILCA -- hoping to learn more about this  at the
> ILCA conference this summer.
>
>
>
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