Thank you, Angela, for your posting.
I suspect the critique may partly be aimed at me, because I said something
about what I feel is our role as IBCLC's.
I agree with Angie: as IBCLC's, we have all kinds of standards to uphold,
ethical ones being a part of that.
Even if that was not the primary question (although I didn't understand
either, that the pump was not meant to be used by someone else... I thought
that was what the search was about...), I think it is a good habit here at
this list that people sometimes respond to issues in a posting that are
secondary or tertiary. Some are more experienced than others and from
signatures, one can often not see how long someone has been in practice. We
all have duty to be polite in our mails and we all run the risk of
misinterpreting someone due to lack of body language or someone
misinterpreting us in what we say.
Then again... I think we also have a duty (which can be used as a wonderful
opportunity! :-)) to address side-issues, because sometimes what seems a
side-issue is in fact more important than the initial question. That's what
happens with mothers (question behind the question) and I think that is
something that can also happen between us as colleagues.
I've often been amazed, reading posts here, seeing how colleagues tackled
questions and problems from totally different angles and still dealt with
what the original poster said. And that can also lead to something that has
no longer anything to do with what the original poster said, but is pretty
interesting nevertheless. ;o)
As for whether questions are dumb or not: I think it often depends on your
own level. Those who are extremely experienced, will see questions repeated
over and over again that they no longer feel like answering. Very
understandable. Fortunately, there will always be others, at different
levels, who have managed to grasp the essence and are still thrilled over
the fact that they now gained a certain amount of knowledge on a certain
topic and are enthusiastic writers/explainers. Very nice. It's like with
kids, who are thrilled when they ride their bikes without side-wheels. ;o)
I think there are also situations in which people have seen bad results from
certain ways of dealing with something. That may give their response a more
serious appearance, because the response comes from a sad experience they
would dearly like to prevent happening to others. We're all so different.
And most of those here are just so passionate about breastfeeding moms.
That's where things come from, I think, and letting go is an art in itself
(an art I certainly haven't been able to master in all situations where it
would be useful... ;-)).
Kindly,
Marianne Vanderveen IBCLC, Netherlands (who should be writing poems for the
Dutch Sinterklaas-feest tomorrow!)
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kirkwood, Angela" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 2:38 PM
Subject: [LACTNET] 10 yr old pump n style
In response to: "I want to be clear that I do truly appreciate those of
you who responded with suggestions and possible negative consequences of
using an old pump and not going into your opinions of me as an IBCLC.
This question was mainly posted in respect of how to repurpose/recycle a
pump in an eco-friendly manner. It was NOT about selling or passing it
along to another mother, as I had already told the mother that was not a
good idea."
I apologize if I did not understand the question. I dont remember seeing
that the question was not how to reuse the old pump. If I am the author
of the comment referred to above, my sincere apologies to the poster.
In no way was the intent to demean the question or poster. I feel that
knowing what the differences are between single user personal
breastpumps vs rental and closed system pumps are, or at least should
be, basic IBCLC knowledge. Having the certification signifies a higher
level of expertise at minimum which should include intentions of the
manufacturer and proper use control of the common equipment used by
breastfeeding mothers.
Regarding the suggestion psted of giving the preused pump to a mother in
a less fortunate country, I personally do not feed is appropriate. Why
would it be ethical to knowingly expose a mother unnecessarily and
lowering standards by providing a preused breastpump to someone of a
lower socioeconomic status that is not acceptable otherwise? Why would
that not be the same as providing preused pumps to WIC programs?
Angie Kirkwood
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