<<She has been using the Mother Love
tincture, and fenugreek. >>
Which ML tincture? A mom who contacted me recently had been taking
fenugreek capsules without much apparent difference. When I encouraged
her to start More Milk Plus (has fenugreek in it)....it was another
several days before she could get the Goat's Rue which was at a
different store. When she added the Goat's Rue, her breasts
dramatically increased in size and she was immediately able to go from 4
oz of formula (q 3h) in the SNS to 2.5. Now, she's doing a couple
ounces per day. It's on the way out. Since she seems comfortable
with the herbs, i'd really encourage MMP *and* Goat's Rue. Other moms
who've used both seem to report better results with the MMP than when
taking fenugreek in capsule form.
Here's the info about the two:
<<<<<<<<<<<<
More Milk
2 oz: $13.95, 4 oz: $24.95, 8 oz: $35.00
(blessed thistle, nettles, fennel seed)
Take 3-4 drops per ten pounds of nursing mothers body weight in 1-2
ounces of water or juice every other hour. In 24-48 hours adjust daily
dosages to need. As well as acting as galactogogues, these herbs offer
other benefits. Blessed thistle assists the liver in eliminating
hormones and drugs from the body after birth; nettle is high in
nutirents that enrich breast milk; and fennel is a digestive herb that,
through breast milk, relieves gas and colic.
Note: Blessed thistle is contraindicated during pregnancy.
More Milk Plus
2 oz: $13.95, 4 oz: $24.95, 8 oz: $35.00
(fenugreek, blessed thistle, nettles, fennel seed)
Combines the benefits of More Milk (blessed thistle, nettles, fennel
seed) with fenugreek seed, the herb most often recommended by lactation
consultants. See dosage information under More Milk.
Note: Blessed thistle and fenugreek are contraindicated during pregnancy.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Check her dosing to make sure she's taking enough of the MM or MMP.
Make sure she's not taking the MM2 - it's the one that's formulated for
use during pregnancy. The benefits wouldn't come close to matching MMP.
Anything about baby's mouth that might make it harder for her to suck
effectively? Palate issues of any kind? I'd work on a really deep
asymetrical latch - really digging that bottom jaw in and 'rolling' the
latch on from there. Of course, those are probably two of the first
things you did, but they're the ones that come to mind right now.
So mom is getting milk from pumping post feeds? How much milk is mom
getting from pumping post feeds?
It could very well be that just by getting this baby back on track,
supplementing EBM at the breast - she will be able to go back to
exclusive breastfeeding. The mom I wrote about a couple of weeks ago
is almost there....and her supply was exceptionally compromised...with
no apparant explanation of how it got that way. I my mom's situation
though, her supply was so compromised that formula was already being
used in significant quantity....and she was getting *zero* from
pumping. So she quit pumping, quit bottles, and just simply nursed and
nursed and nursed: ABM supplementation intermittently, meticulous
attention to a deep asymetrical latch, breast compression (three
seconds, then release), MMP/Goat's Rue. His palate is exceptionally
high and really scooped out - like a little scooped out kiwi.
Best wishes to the mom...hope it turns around soon. Very very soon.
:)
katherine
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