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Henya KnitMammy <[log in to unmask]>
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OK. hit me if I am out of line.
But as someone, who
1 - grew up and lived in Russia during the Chernobyl disaster
2 - Lived about 30 kilometers from there
3 - have family members that died as a result of the catastrophe
I feel that I need to chime in.
I looked at the web link you give and while very nicely presented I do not
think it is reliable, at least the statistics. For one the "immediate
evacuation" did not start until after May 2Nd, almost a week after the
explosion.
For one simple reason. It was a huge cover up by Russia, at the time of the
disaster no one was verifying the facts Russians recorded. The death toll
was underreported. so were the permanent injuries.
Even now, many years after I am still extremely sad and angry about what
happened. We were not told about the explosion or it's ramifications for a
wile. On May first there was a huge parade in Chernobyl itself, the
government got the people from outlying villages to participate too (no
they, people did not have a choice). My classmates father was a prosecutor,
we went there to determine the criminal coses of the explosion (basically
pick those to be arrested). He was a huge man in his 40s, an athlete. A week
later he died. His family was not allowed to hold a funeral. Would you like
to know what he and his assistants wore, wile looking at the debris? A suite
- as in a regular business suite. No protective closing. At all. Soldiers,
who were working with debris wore summer uniforms. Again no protective
closing. How do I know? Because my cousin "died in the line of duty" from
radiation exposure. Than there were the buses. Buses were used to evacuate
the people when the "nothing special" happened story burst. The buses were
driven to Kiev (I lived there at the time) the old ladies at the bus park
hosed then down for cleanliness. No one said anything about radiation
debris. The people found out that something was wrong when most of this poor
women died. And so on, and on, and on...
Than came cancer. There is no way to follow the statistics. Because people
run frantically. And illegally. At some point one had to have a special
permission to live Kiev. The school would not release the older students. We
had to finish out the school year.
Each person in my family was affected by Chernobyl. Some things were easy to
see - like hair loss. 16 year old girls usually do not start loosing hair.
Some things were not apparent until much. much later - like the thyroid
problems my Mom and my Sister have and my problem with ovaries.
I have not counted the victims. I think no one can count them. But a million
people does not sound improbable at all.
If I still have not bored you, here is the link to my post with memories
of what was happening.
May we all be safe.
-- 
Henya
Brooklyn, NY

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On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 6:38 AM, Veronica Garea <[log in to unmask]>wrote:

> I will make some non-breastfeeding remarks and I apologize in advance.
> However, since this list strives to work with evidence based information, I
> think I need to make a comment.
>
> Janette, you mention in your post that nearly one million people have died
> as a result of the Chernobyl accident. This claim is not supported by
> evidence. The Chernobyl cohort is the second most studied group of people
> with respect to radiation effects (second to the Hiroshima and Nagasaki
> atomic bomb survivors and their progeny). I suggest reading the UNSCEAR
> reports on this matter,
>
> http://www.unscear.org/unscear/en/chernobyl.html
>
> The most relevant results of the studies carried out in the aftermath of
> the
> Chernobyl accident pertain to non-human species and the effects of
> radioisotopes on the ecosystem. There have been no modifications to
> radiation protection principles for humans as a result of the Chernobyl
> accident.
>
> I can answer any questions privately to avoid clogging up the list with
> non-breastfeeding matters.
>
> Best regards
>
>
> Veronica Garea, ME Nuclear Engineering, MS Math, PhD Engineering Physics
> Nuclear Safety Specialist
> (And LLLL, that is why I am on Lactnet)
>
>
>  7. PROBIT
> > Date:    Wed, 17 Nov 2010 23:20:55 -0500
> > From:    Jannette Festival <[log in to unmask]>
> > Subject: PROBIT
> >
> > I've been reviewing the PROBIT study and have some questions hopefully
> > someone has some insight into. Belarus is located north of the Ukraine
> and
> > east of Russia. In 1986 the Chernobyl nuclear plant exploded (we're
> talking
> > radiation here). 70% of the fallout landed on Belarus. To date, nearly
> one
> > million people have died.
> > Now lets look at Michael Kramers study results. 'A breastfeeding
> promotion
> > intervention program does not affect the risk for asthma, allergy, eczema
> > symptoms, or positive skin prick test results by the age of 6.5 years.'
> > Really?
> >
> > Why was a study of this magnitude done in a country that has had such a
> > large scale catastrophe on it's people and environment. In Belarus
> thyroid
> > cancer in children is over 60 times higher then pre Chernobyl. Apparently
> > the soil, foliage and water in highly contaminated areas still contain
> > substantial levels of radioactive chemicals. How can we possibly conclude
> > from this study that breastfeeding does not have some protective effect.
> Am
> > I missing something here?
> >
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