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Heleen Hayes <[log in to unmask]>
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Fri, 5 Sep 2003 09:05:41 +0200
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On 5 Sep 2003 at 23:06, darusia wrote:

> I remember a lively discussion re: co-sleeping that was on LACTNET not
> too long ago as well as a reference sheet for parents re: how to sleep
> safely with baby. I have tried to get into the archives to search for
> the relevant postings as well as this handout but I am having some
> serious computer issues @ the moment. Does anyone out there have
> access to this resource or any others that are geared towards
> educating parents about safe co-sleeping?

I need this info too, because for a bf-magazine I received an article
from an anti-cosleeping doctor who advises not to co-sleep untill the
age of 15 months, and that 'in the UK it is advised against sleeping
in one bed if the parents are tired, a situation that is certainly
very common with nursing mothers. But also with one of these extra
risk factors co-sleeping is dangerous'

Where I personally feel co-sleeping is safe as long as you do it in a
sensible way. He claims a high number of cot deaths while co-
sleeping.

A search on my own computer with the words 'co sleep' resulted in
these links (august 2003, if you want to see the original author's
texts)
The link to Dr. McKenna's response to the anti-cosleeping article:
http://www.washingtontimes.com/op-ed/20030824-110935-1299r.htm
The article itself:
http://www.thesouthern.com/rednews/2003/07/13/build/life/LIF006.html

An article found while searching for "Kenna" in the headers:
http://tampatrib.com/News/MGAOEE9QGHD.html

For all responses look for 'co-sleeping' in july 2003 (llink posted
on July 20)
http://www.babyfriendly.org.uk/parents/sharingbed.asp

A complete message because of all the links that the author has
compiled:

> Hope I'm not repeating anyone. I found these sites on safe co-sleeping,
> but I don't think any are Canadian... and believe me, as a Canadian
> editor, my google goes to Cdn sites first!
>
> http://www.nd.edu/~jmckenn1/lab/pamphlets/milwaukee.html
> http://www.drjaygordon.com/ap/cosleeping.htm
> http://www.attachmentparenting.org/cosleepwork.shtml
> http://iparenting.com/sears/columns/co-sleep.htm
> http://www.pantley.com/elizabeth/content/excerpts/cosleepingchecklist.htm
>
> Jo-Anne Elder-Gomes, IBCLC and Queen of Sleep -- despite everything...

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?
tmpl=story&cid=1435&ncid=1437&e=6&u=/kidshealth/20030801/hl_kidshealth
/cos
le eping

Another mail:

>
> >
> >Franco P, Scaillet S, Wermenbol V, Valente F, Groswasser J, Kahn A.
> >The influence of a pacifier on infants' arousals from sleep.
> >J Pediatr. 2000 Jun;136(6):775-9.
> >http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list
> >_uids=10839876&dopt=Abstract
> >
> >If that is true, then a recommendation that *bottle-fed* infants use
> >pacifiers would make sense.
> >
> Help out the statistically challenged here...
> Is it arousals that help protect against SIDS?  I have understood from
> McKenna's research that bottle-fed babies wake less easily and less often
> than bf ones, and I reinforce that impression when I hear it from mothers
> of bf babies. What I don't understand, though, is why we still try to find
> sleep and comfort measures to help babies from startling themselves awake
> too often. Am I oversimplifying? Is it a question of an ideal norm? In
> that case, wouldn't the norm of co-sleeping, frequently breastfeeding
> babies throughout a large portion of a mother's adult life provide the
> norm for adult sleep, too? Also, can someone help me understand what
> triggers arousal, and if it is related to hormonal states? I know apnea
> can be related to various respiratory and heart malfunctions. Of course,
> in families in which sustained breastfeeding of several children occurs,
> the interrupted sleep of mothering simply merges into the low sleep needs
> of menopause. It is in this state that I really question how much sleep
> adults really need. Jo-Anne Elder-Gomes, PhD, IBCLC, from a family of
> origin of low sleep needs, married to a nearly-non-sleeper, and passing on
> that tendency... after my afternoon nap, that is.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20030718.ubaby0719/
BN Story/National/?query=bed

That will probably be enough for the time being.....
Wait, I never saw a link to McKenna's site
http://www.nd.edu/~jmckenn1/lab/--
Heleen Hayes
http://www.xs4all.nl/~hhayes
http://www.borstvoedingsagenda.nl

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