Barb reported that two IBCLCs said:

> They said that the new
> standard for return to birth weight is 5 days, and that with proper
> breastfeeding management, infants should not lose any weight at all. Is this
> what everyone else is saying ?>>

References?  Babies born where?  And with what sort of interventions or lack
of them?  I haven't heard this one before.

<<> They also said cabbage is not recommended because it has not been
> researched
> and no studies show that this works and may even be dangerous due to
> pesticides on it, including e coli which can be fatal to infants. Again,
> what
> do ya'll say about these topics.
> >>


Not recommended by whom?  And E-coli on cabbage?  Raw hamburger, yes -- and
no, I don't recommend raw hamburger on breasts.  But I haven't heard of
e-coli lurking on washed cabbage leaves.  How does the e-coli and other junk
migrate into the breast milk?  And what sort of research are they looking for?

Y'know, there is evidence based practice (how many of you eat with a fork?
Have they been properly evaluated to not pierce the palate?  To transfer food
without difficulty?  What is the efficacy of a fork compared with a knife?
Or chopsticks?  Or fingers?  Have any of them been studied?  What about a
cup?  Has there been a properly randomized, double blind study on the use of
a cup?  For adults, let alone babies.), and there is evidence based on
numerous anectodal reports and satisfied customers, and there is common
sense.  Then there is eschewing common sense and satisfied customers because
there are not properly randomized, double blind studies.  Now which is common
sense and which isn't?

By the way, the use of the "young cabbage leaf on the caked breast" was
written up in 1892.  Too bad they didn't have a double blind, randomized
study to support their position.

Jan -- who is thinking about lurking.....but having a hard time doing it.
And who is also the Queen of Cabbage.
>

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