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hi roosje,
while we're at it:
i hear that quite often, do you know why the dutch system with loads
of home births and "kramzorge" and everything does not affect the
breastfeeding rates in a positive way?

TIA,

nina

2009/12/18 Roosje van Gorp <[log in to unmask]>:
> Hi Regina,
>
> I feel lucky to be living in a country where about 1/3 of births is a home
> birth. I had a home birth with my second and third child. In 2002 about 14%
> of births were done by C-section. I couldn't find more recent figures.
> Breastfeeding rates are not that good, however.
>
> Roosje van Gorp
> Maastricht, The Netherlands
>
> Regina M. Roig-Romero, Bs Ibclc wrote:
>>
>> Nikki asked the following, with respect to that news report from Esther
>> about the attempt to “improve” infant immune systems:
>>
>> << Bring back the wet nurse!! If women can rent out their wombs, and sell
>> their eggs, why can't the wet nurse become an honored profession?>>
>>
>> To which I sadly speculate: because the return of wet nursing isn't
>> sufficiently technological. What happens between a woman and a nursing
>> infant is utterly personal, utterly human, and delightfully messy and
>> unpredictable - whether or not the woman in question is the child's mother.
>>
>> Granted that renting out one's womb can't help but to also be personal,
>> human, and messy but for that same reason IMO it's not going to turn into an
>> actual profession, the way wet nursing once was. And it still involves a
>> fair amount of technological intervention, which makes it somehow more
>> palatable to our perverse modern mindset.
>>
>> (Side note: childbirth in the U.S. currently suffers from the same
>> philosophical problem. C-sections are so much more technological,
>> predictable and artificial than a vaginal birth. That is viewed as a GOOD
>> thing. Beneath the surface of our cultural consciousness, we TRUST that
>> which we can control and predict. Like C-sections and formula. The converse
>> is also true: we don't trust that which refuses to submit itself to our
>> control, like natural birth and breastfeeding.)
>>
>> I have long thought that wet nursing would make a comeback in the United
>> States some day but as time passes I'm less and less sure of that. Our
>> "modern" mindset is much more comfortable with turning breastmilk into a
>> commodity and the process of breastfeeding into a medical-technical process,
>> surrounded and "supported" by machines and inventions the way a skeleton
>> surrounds and supports sinew and muscle.
>> It gives me no joy to say that but, on my cynical days at least, that is
>> how I feel.
>> Wet nursing and the history of infant feeding have long fascinated me
>> because I will never cease to wonder how we, a mammalian species, got so far
>> away from behaving like the mammals that we are. What other mammalian
>> species puts as much effort into NOT nursing as we do?  None.
>> :::sigh:::
>>
>> Just my opinion, of course....my view of the world from South Florida,
>> where the C-section rate is OVER 50% and VBACS are practically
>> non-existent.....
>>
>> Regina Maria Roig-Romero, BS, IBCLC, RLC
>> Sr. Lactation Consultant
>> Miami-Dade County Health Dept WIC/Nutrition
>> Breastfeeding Program
>>
>> ● 7785 NW 48 Street Suite 300 ● Miami, Florida  33166 ● Phone:  (786)
>> 336-1333 x16219 ● Breastfeeding Helpline: (786) 336-1336 ●  Fax (786)
>> 336-1302
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