Chris wrote, and I couldn't agree more, that  << Few people here know how to
teach manual expression even though Marmet's Technique is effective and
available on LLLI tear-off sheets. >>

Yes -- this is true even though (to give them great credit) Medela includes a
description of the Marmet technique in the brochure that comes with the
Lactina pump!   That's where I originally learned it, and I have taught it to
lots of amazed mothers who can't believe they've never heard of this before...

Elisheva Urbas
neither a rental station nor an LC of any stripe, but a friendly bf busybody
in NYC

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