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Borstvoedingscentrum Panta Rhei <[log in to unmask]>
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Thank you, Gonneke; much more apprpriate description than I could have 
given...! ;-)
Hope it helps you out, Christina...?

Bye,

Marianne Vanderveen IBCLC, Netherlands

-----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- 
From: gonneke van veldhuizen
Sent: Friday, December 03, 2010 10:28 AM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Constipation

I think Marianne is referring to ''Kanne's Brooddrank'', which I think 
originated from Grmany and there may very well be variations further North 
and East into Europe. It is basicly fermented sour dough bread rich in 
lactic acid and lactic acid bacteria. It is also used in fungal infections 
as acidy rinse and as a drink for gut-health

Warmly,

Gonneke, IBCLC in PP. LC lecturer in southern Netherlands



--- On Fri, 12/3/10, hris <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

From: hris <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: [LACTNET] Constipation
To: [log in to unmask]
Date: Friday, December 3, 2010, 7:38 AM

Marianne,

could you please describe the bread drink - it sounds like something we have
here and I find it interesting, because here it is used as a galactogogue. 
If
you prefer, reply privately.

Christina Yaneva
National Assossiation for Breastfeeding Support
Bulgaria



----- Original Message ----
From: Borstvoedingscentrum Panta Rhei 
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Sent: Fri, December 3, 2010 2:13:17 AM
Subject: Re: Constipation

Hi Marie,

For mothers who breastfeed, taking a probiotic can do a lot for their own 
gut
and consequently for their baby's gut.
In the Netherlands there is a fermented bread drink (apparently very
distasteful, unfortunately...) that works well.
One of my colleagues has tried it often: baby constipated, mom drinks it, 
baby
poops. Works well!
I found out that there are also probiotic tablets, but I don't know whether 
they
have exactly the same effect.

Bye,

Marianne Vanderveen IBCLC, Netherlands (who is back on Lactnet after a not
understood, technical removal... with a different address now, my practice
address)

-----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- From: Marie Ivey
Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2010 7:54 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Constipation

Hello,
Here is an interesting question posed by one of my clients (permission to 
post):
A new mother is breastfeeding after reduction surgery which was done about 5
years ago. Her left breast isn't producing any breastmilk, but her right 
breast
is producing about 1 1/2 ounces at each feeding (she is thrilled to be able 
to
lactate at all!). She is supplementing with soy which is making her baby 
very
constipated. She has been given lots of advice about what to give her one 
month
old baby. She knows some of this advice could even be dangerous (baby prune
juice, Miralax, water, and even Karo syrup).

Her question for me, "Do you have any information on how I can change my 
diet to
help with his constipation since he is getting some breastmilk?" Hmmmm, I 
have
never had anyone ask this question.  Do any of you have information on foods
that cross into breastmilk which might help with constipation without giving
anything additional to this infant?
Thank you in advance,
Marie Ivey, BSN, RN, LCCE, CLC
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