I used to think the UK was a civilized country too.  However, my expereince 
of working with asylum seekers and refugees for some years has disabused me 
of that notion.  (I am an esol teacher). 

For some years I was on an email list which sent a digest of asylum matters 
from the press etc. which included stories from the UK and across the globe. 
In general the vicious inhumane and nauseatingly shaming treatment asylum 
seekers received in the UK appeared to be no worse and maybe even somewhat 
better than in many other western 'first world' countries. 

Magda Sachs

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