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gonneke van veldhuizen <[log in to unmask]>
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I think Marianne is referring to ''Kanne's Brooddrank'', which I think originated from Grmany and there may very well be variations further North and East into Europe. It is basicly fermented sour dough bread rich in lactic acid and lactic acid bacteria. It is also used in fungal infections as acidy rinse and as a drink for gut-health

Warmly,

Gonneke, IBCLC in PP. LC lecturer in southern Netherlands



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From: hris <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: [LACTNET] Constipation
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Date: Friday, December 3, 2010, 7:38 AM

Marianne,

could you please describe the bread drink - it sounds like something we have 
here and I find it interesting, because here it is used as a galactogogue. If 
you prefer, reply privately.

Christina Yaneva
National Assossiation for Breastfeeding Support
Bulgaria



----- Original Message ----
From: Borstvoedingscentrum Panta Rhei <[log in to unmask]>
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Sent: Fri, December 3, 2010 2:13:17 AM
Subject: Re: Constipation

Hi Marie,

For mothers who breastfeed, taking a probiotic can do a lot for their own gut 
and consequently for their baby's gut.
In the Netherlands there is a fermented bread drink (apparently very 
distasteful, unfortunately...) that works well.
One of my colleagues has tried it often: baby constipated, mom drinks it, baby 
poops. Works well!
I found out that there are also probiotic tablets, but I don't know whether they 
have exactly the same effect.

Bye,

Marianne Vanderveen IBCLC, Netherlands (who is back on Lactnet after a not 
understood, technical removal... with a different address now, my practice 
address)

-----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- From: Marie Ivey
Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2010 7:54 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Constipation

Hello,
Here is an interesting question posed by one of my clients (permission to post):
A new mother is breastfeeding after reduction surgery which was done about 5 
years ago. Her left breast isn't producing any breastmilk, but her right breast 
is producing about 1 1/2 ounces at each feeding (she is thrilled to be able to 
lactate at all!). She is supplementing with soy which is making her baby very 
constipated. She has been given lots of advice about what to give her one month 
old baby. She knows some of this advice could even be dangerous (baby prune 
juice, Miralax, water, and even Karo syrup).

Her question for me, "Do you have any information on how I can change my diet to 
help with his constipation since he is getting some breastmilk?" Hmmmm, I have 
never had anyone ask this question.  Do any of you have information on foods 
that cross into breastmilk which might help with constipation without giving 
anything additional to this infant?
Thank you in advance,
Marie Ivey, BSN, RN, LCCE, CLC 
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