In a message dated 97-12-16 21:05:22 EST, you write:

<< I think the LLL advise is WONDERFUL , I love LLL and work closely with
 our local group, the part I was upset is about hospitals not giving
 adequate support, I have worked long and hard to develop a lactation
 program at our hospital . We have 3 IBCLC's for our 8 bed unit and we do
 give lots of bf support . I don't think she had to talk so poorly of
 hospitals.......
  >>


Doesn't so much of the discussion here validate that yours is the exceptional
situation?  In my area (Philadelphia) most hospitals have no IBCLC's.  Both
from my own experience with two hospital births and what I have heard as both
a LLL Leader and member, by and large hospitals give little or no advice on
breastfeeding that is accurate and/or encouraging.

Jake Marcus-Cipolla, retired JD, student LC, recent LLL Leader