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Kerry & Jack <[log in to unmask]>
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Sun, 7 Jul 2002 19:08:28 -0500
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FWIW, here's the rebuttal of that claim from Nutriteam, one of the
manufacturers of citricidal:

http://www.nutriteam.com/faq.htm#germany

"What about rumours of Chemicals in GSE?
Newsgroups and email groups have received postings to the effect that GSE
contains Triclosan, Benzelthonium Chloride, or Methyl Paraben. The source of
this type of report comes from both Germany(Here is the PubMed reference to
the German Report) and Japan, where Citricidal is not approved for human
consumption. The reason is that Citricidal is very similar in molecular
weight to both Benzelthonium Chloride and Triclosan, both of which are
effective disinfectants, but are toxic to human and animal life. In Germany
their test for BC, Triclosan, and M.Paraben comes up positive(which is more
correctly called a "false positive") and in Japan, the same is happening for
Triclosan. Meanwhile, Citricidal has been tested for the presence of these
toxins by independent labs, and has been proven clean. (Ex: Weston Gulf
Coast Laboratories, Inc., University Park, IL, test completed in March of
1992. Tested for heavy metals, Cyanides, Pesticides and PCBs and
Benzelkonium Chloride. Results: None Detected.) In fact, the accusations
about triclosan(used in many dish and hand soaps in the US) became so
frequent a few years ago, that Citricidal began specifically testing each
batch of GSE for its absense, and providing a Certificate of Analysis to
that effect.

The truth is, Citricidal is not only effective, it has been in use for many
years. If these allegations had any validity, there certainly would be a
history of complaints and judgements against the product, and it would have
been removed from the market many years ago. Triclosan has recently been
compared to "Agent Orange" in toxicity. The EPA rates triclosan as "highly
toxic".
Such rumours are false, and are not a threat to those armed with accurate
information. The test reports from Germany and Japan are certainly
bothersome, but they have produced "false positives", not accurate profiles.
The vast body of evidence from many years of use by thousands of satisfied
consumers, doctors, manufacturers, and veterinarians, speaks most loudly
against such reports. (The German report, linked above, does suggest that
some suppliers of "GSE" may, in fact, be fraudulent. But Citricidal and
NutriBiotic GSE are both proven, safe, and effective products.) "

Kerry Luskey
(user of GSE in Minneapolis)

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Date:    Sat, 6 Jul 2002 22:44:25 +0200
From:    Sara Bernard <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: grapefruit seed extract

Dear Lacnetters,

I've been following the discussions about the use of grapefruitseed extract
with interest. Being someone who always has to go a step further, I decided
to try and findout what it was about this extract that made it
anti-microbial. I did a medline search and came up with the following
abstract:{snipped}

Just wondering what the the advocates of grapefruitseed extract think about
this?

Sara Bernard
The Netherlands
(staying nutral on this count for now!)

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