>>>> Posting number 33760, dated 5 Dec 1998 21:36:34
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>From:         "Alison K. Hazelbaker, MA, IBCLC" <[log in to unmask]>
>Subject:      Re: Lactation consultants clipping frenulums
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>>>> Posting number 33761, dated 5 Dec 1998 22:13:44
>Date:         Sat, 5 Dec 1998 22:13:44 EST
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>From:         "Alison K. Hazelbaker, MA, IBCLC" <[log in to unmask]>
>Subject:      Re: ruined suck
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>Rob: i would suggest helping baby regain trust by keeping baby skin-to-skin
>with mother. Soem gentle CST can help to get baby into parasympathetic nervous
>stae, maybe some massage. That done, perhaps a feed or two with either finger-
>feding or cup-feeding can help baby feel back in control ove rhte feeding
>process. If baby is detoxing childborth drugs, you may need to get more
>assertive with managing the situation, some rebirthing, kangaroo care and
>ongoing alternative feeding.
>
>These are just general suggestions. Hope one or more resonates.
>
>Alison K. Hazelbaker


Hi Allison

What excellent suggestions - it is so nice to hear someone else taking all
the other issues into consideration.  It sure is more than just breasts and
milk!
We heard so much at the BFI launch in Vancouver about the obstetrical
interventions that mess up breastfeeding and we have known that for quite
some time..... nice to hear like minded LC's speaking for baby and good
gentle suggestions to help them recover from what has been done to them.  I
am also very impressed with the originator of this message, Rob, to even
seek out suggestions for helping this baby.  Often not even regcognized  -
and here it is posted!! You are making a difference  - keep up your good work!
Kathie Lindstrom
Sunny Abbotsford

>>>> Posting number 33770, dated 5 Dec 1998 22:22:29
>Date:         Sat, 5 Dec 1998 22:22:29 -0500
>Reply-To:     Lactation Information and Discussion <[log in to unmask]>
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>From:         Joy Motsiff <[log in to unmask]>
>Subject:      growth charts for nursing babes
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>Does any one know where one could get their hands on growth charts for
>infants that are exclusively breastfed for 6 months and through the first
>year?  I have seen a small scale graph of growth comparing breast and
>bottle. Wondering if growth chatrts are
>available for nursing babies?
>
>Joy Motsiff  PNP  IBCLC      [log in to unmask]


I would try Kittie Franz from California - that is the only place I have
heard of them.

Kathie Lindstrom

Kathie