Well, we're pretty far off topic here, but I'll toss this in before the
listmoms call it, I guess.

 I'd go farther than Marsha, who said pain is common but manageable if you
know how to cope with it.   My own experience is that my 3rd so far was by
far the fastest, the most painful -- really scary for 20 minutes or so near
the end -- but overall also the happiest.   My midwife couldn't believe I was
in good labor because I was still laughing out loud between contractions.

But pain -- short term pain for a purpose, anyway, I'm not talking about
chronic and purposeless pain -- is not incompatible with great joy.

Elisheva

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