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"Jennifer Tow, IBCLC" <[log in to unmask]>
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Sun, 18 Feb 2007 22:29:58 -0500
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Liz,
It strikes me, in reading about this baby, that this is not a baby 
angry at leaving the perfect womb. You mention a long labor and a 
mother who cannot express milk--have you considered breast edema? Also, 
with a long labor, you often have a baby in a poor position or who has 
been exposed to pit, epidural drugs and possibly other interventive 
stressors. When I see a baby like this, I am more likely to consider 
that the baby is uncomfortable than angry. As to SKS, it seems to me 
mom can just lie on her side with baby facing her chest--as if nursing 
in a side-lying position. It worries me that so many babies in pain are 
seen by LCs and never referred for this problem--releasing birth trauma 
is a  far better intervention than nipple shields, AIM or any other 
tehnique that tries to bypass the outcomes of birth trauma rather than 
healing it.
Jennifer Tow, IBCLC, CT, USA
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Date:    Sun, 18 Feb 2007 15:46:34 -0500
From:    Liz Brooks <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Is side-by-side the same as skin-to-skin?

I spoke by phone with the mother of a 41 week AGA, 36-hour old baby 
girl,
first-born by non-eventful vaginal delivery.  Baby was red-faced 
furious at
breast the first day; wouldn't latch enough for even one suckle.  They
offered a nipple shield, which seemed to improve B's wilingness to 
latch and
suckle as the second day of life commenced.  (Including --gag -- drops 
of
formula on the nipple shield, cuz mom couldn't manually express any 
milk
out.) Hospital says there has been a *9%* weight loss.  Hmm.  I am 
wondering
about that  ...

I talked about LOTS of true skin-to-skin once the family gets home (at 
about
Hour 42-44), and practicing manual expression to express drops to 
entice
baby.

Her Q is this:  lying on her back is very uncomfortable (long labor;
stitches for vaginal tears).  Is skin-to-skin "as effective" if she is 
on
her side, the baby snugged up into her tummy area?

I gotta admit I was stumped.  I am going to dig up my Kangaroo Care 
stuff,
but am hoping someones here has a quick opinion.  I understand that for
premies, the instructions are pretty clear that the baby is to be lying
chest-to-chest with mom (or dad).  That full-body-hug can certainly 
assure
the baby is kept toasty warm.

But what about side-to-side for a full-termer, who appears to be just 
mad
that she had to give up that perfect womb?  (I told Mom to make sure 
they
are draped with a receiving blanket or sheet to retain body heat -- 
have
baby wearing a cap and maybe booties.)


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