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The Hygeia is a Lactina.  Medela has lost the patent on Lactina.  Hygeia I believe is the original engineers who developed the Lactina and used to work for Medela.  I could be wrong.  But I've seen the Hygeia and the kit looks like the older style Lactina kits we had a few years ago before symphony came out.  Same idea. Sorry, I don't think code compliance should affect our use of stuff that works.  I still use formula for moms with low supply, just try to find one that works for the baby when moms can't get donor milk.  What is different about this?  Let's be practical.  No one is saying that formula companies should go away completely, just stop advertising their product as being the same as what mom offers (or close). Same goes for bottles.  Or pumps.  They are SUBSTITUTES.  I'm all for treating them the same. No one would ever say boycott formula and tell moms to make their own and if they did they would be very amiss.  I am a cook and I KNOW that I never make things exactly the same way twice. 

-----Original Message-----
From: Lactation Information and Discussion [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Jodine Chase
Sent: Friday, December 16, 2011 10:25 AM
Subject: Re: Symphony Premie or Premie Pattern

Jane, have you had a chance to compare the Symphony with Hygeia's? I ask
because Hygeia is code-compliant.

-- Jodine Chase
Edmonton, Alberta, Canada

On Fri, Dec 16, 2011 at 8:27 AM, <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> You can't mimic Symphony patters with any Ameda pump nor with Lactina
> pump.  It is uniquely unique.  It's not just the rate of the pump it is the
> "swallow bump" where the vacuum is held slightly and then released as a
> baby does when swallowing.  I know that's not scientific terms but it's
> what I've observed over and over again.  Pumpinstyle doesn't have it,
> Freestyle doesn't have it. It is controlled by the computer system that
> controls the piston action inside the pump.  Whatever Medela's faults in
> code compliance, the products really work. So I'm not boycotting even if
> they aren't code compliant. Hope that doesn't jeopardize my certification!
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Lactation Information and Discussion [mailto:
> [log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of laurie wheeler
> Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2011 7:05 PM
> Subject: Symphony Premie or Premie Pattern
>
> I am aware of the 2 phase expression system which I believe is
> approximately 2 minutes of the stimulation phase and then switches to
> the expression phase (and mothers can switch it themselves if they've
> letdown). Can anyone shed more light on what is different in the
> premie pattern? I would love to try a similar pattern. Our hospital
> uses the Ameda Elite pumps which we/mom can control the speed and
> vacuum on a continuum with a dial.
> Laurie Wheeler RN MN IBCLC
> Mississippi USA
>
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