I saw that episode a whie ago. You can watch the episode on 
http://player.omroep.nl/?aflid=5609267 or a 6 minute clip of the birth itself on 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q2vigs_l4pA&mode=user&search=

Heleen Hayes

On 31 Dec 2007 at 0:20, gonneke van veldhuizen wrote:

> Angela Alfe <[log in to unmask]> wrote: IWomen are raised with the
> idea that birthing is a horrific, painful, and life-threatening event.
>  It is sad that they don't know or trust their own bodies enough to
> let go and let it do what it was made to do.~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> 
> Dear friends,
> 
> I just want to share a TV show I watched yesterday night (maybe my
> fellow Dutchies recognize it: BNN's ''Try before you die'') It was an
> example of a perfectly normal Dutch home birth. The mom was in the
> parental bed, husband sitting next to her head, caressing her. Midwife
> was somewhere else in the room, quietly waiting for the dilation to
> progress, occasionally checking. Then, when she approached full
> dilation, mom started growling and then yelling. Then she reached the
> point where she told to just go on without her, she wasn't going to
> continue this. No one really payed attention to that, of course, but
> continued observing and caressing. (in my personal experience this
> equals about 8-9 centimeters). Next stage is full dilation and pushing
> and screaming. No one was telling her to not scream, because it was
> obvious that here was hard work being done. She reached the fase that
> she yelled to the midwife or whoever was around to ''get it out, now,
> no matter what or how'' (in my personal experience that was the point
> just before the crowning). Then baby was born and put on her belly. It
> was a perfect birth and no one thought of her telling she was in too
> much pain. She was working really hard and that can hurt and it can
> cause yelling, screaming, growling (think of weight lifters and such).
> Such a pity that she still had her T shirt on when baby was put on top
> of her and that baby was taken too the foot-end of the bed to be
> rubbed dry, examined and dressed and that finally back at moms no-one
> noticed the rooting (tongue licking, fist suckling)
> 
> Just to show that even when birth is wonderfully normal and
> physiological, breastfeeding start can be messed up just as easy as
> everywhere.
> 
> Warmly,
> Gonneke, IBCLC, LLLL in southern Netherlands, about to go and bake
> ''oliebollen'' another traditional New Year's Eve treat, like
> doughnuts without hole and filled with raisins, preserved orange peels
> and stuff like that.
> 
> 
> Met vriendelijke groet, 
> 
> Gonneke van Veldhuizen, IBCLC 
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