We are doing cabbage
>(a lot), icy cold compresses, and yesterday I suggested some sage.  I'm not
>interested so much in decreasing milk supply as I am in getting rid of this
>what appears to be permanent engorgement.

Have you tried ibuprophen?  I find that cabbage, cold compresses, and
ibuprophen are a good combination, especailly the cabbage/ibuprophen duo.
I "suggest" 600mg loading dose and 400mg every 4 hours until the
engorgement is resolved.

I also suggest some thorough pumping along with the above.

Pat Gima, IBCLC
Milwaukee, Wisconsin
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