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Phyllis Adamson IBCLC <[log in to unmask]>
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Thank you for that. 
Wondering why it is still on the market when it is so dangerous when used as designed and as directed.
It comes about 38-45 years too late for me and my kids. Thank goodness they never had a reaction.
Perhaps it's because I used it rarely and always with a drop on a Qtip. It never went down baby's throat.
It did distract them from the pain so they could breastfeed and reduced my risk of being bitten.
Phyllis

---- "Jennifer Tow wrote: 

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Please do no recommend orajel to babies!


"Benzocaine products should not be used on children less than two years of age, except under the advice and supervision of a healthcare professional. "
http://www.fda.gov/drugs/drugsafety/ucm250024.htm


None of the dentists I refer to recommend this ever post-revision.


As to a consensus--no, there sure is none. Based on my own clinical experience and that if the practitioners I trust the most stretching is necessary at least with PTT ad LT. 


I give my clients a homeopathy protocol that a homeopath and I worked out. Larry gives a topical homeopathic remedy. I also am now recommending to some moms that they use calendula and aloe for the massage, while Larry has begun to tell them to use Vit E (I am not a fan of that option) and John Roberts in the UK is giving homeopathy and a propolis salve for the massaging. I am trying to track these various options loosely at the moment. 



Jennifer Tow, IBCLC, USA & France
Intuitive Parenting Network, LLC





Date:    Wed, 11 Jul 2012 13:00:25 -0700
From:    Phyllis Adamson IBCLC <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Pain Relief for Frenotomy

Just offering a thought on pain relief - instead of a systemic med, why not use 
a drop of OraGel or Numzit placed with a cotton swab like a Qtip for good aim? 
It's temporary, but can give enough relief to help baby nurse again and go to 
sleep, as it does for teething babies.
Phyllis

---- Laura Spitzfaden <[log in to unmask]> wrote: 

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I am wondering what others recommend to moms whose newborn babies are having a 
frenotomy.  Some babies do not seem to be bothered much and some seem to have a 
lot of pain after the procedure and during the stretches and sweeps to prevent 
reattachment.

If the baby is older, then the parents can choose to use ibuprofen or 
acetaminophen but what about newborns?

Also, there appears to be a lot of variation in the recommended stretches for 
preventing reattachment.  Some very experienced frenotomy providers believe that 
lifting and massaging the frenotomy sites a few times a day is critical and 
others advise sweeping under the tongue and massage, several times a day.

Is there some concensus as to what is the best aftercare? 

Laura Spitzfaden, LLLL, IBCLC













 


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