>There are 10 messages totalling 316 lines in this issue.
>
>Topics in this special issue:
>
> 1. That Other Stuff
> 2. greetings
> 3. Ductal pains in nonlactating/breast binding
> 4. Freezing HM in Bags
> 5. clean kits
> 6. LC Humor
> 7. LACTNET Digest - 4 Dec 1995 - Special issue
> 8. LACTNET Digest - Use of word breast aol
> 9. BF RATES
> 10. season of appreciation
>
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>
>Date: Wed, 6 Dec 1995 07:00:20 +1000
>From: Lesley McBurney <[log in to unmask]>
>Subject: Re: That Other Stuff
>
>>ABM (Artifical Baby Milk)
>>FORMULA
>>CANNED MILK
>>TOSS (That Other Substitute Stuff)
>>TOS (That Other Stuff)
>>PIMP (Processed Infant Milk Product)
>>PMP (Processed Milk Product)
>>AM (Artificial Milk)
>>AHM (Artificial Human Milk)
>>BMA (Breast Milk Alternative)
>>BMS (Breast Milk Substitute) <<<also means Bristol Myers Squib!>>>
>>ARP (Artificial Replacement Product)
>>NHM (Non Human Milk)
>>HMR (Human Milk Replacement)
>>RHM (Replacement Human Milk)
>>AIP (Artificial Infant Product)
>>ABP(Artificial Baby Product)
>>PAM (Processed Alternative/Artifical Milk)
>>PSM (Processed Substitute Milk)
>>AIM (Artificial Infant Milk)
>>ASM (Artificial Substitute Milk)
>>SBM (Substitute Baby Milk)
>>SBM (Substitute Breast Milk)
>>SIM (Substitute Infant Milk)
>>SHM (Substitute Human Milk)
>>SM (Substitute Milk)
>>SLP (Substitute Lactation Product)
>>SFS (Substitute Feeding Substance)
>>AMP (Alternative Milk Product)
>>AIDS (Artificial Infant Dietary Substitute) (Oh no! that would never work
>>either!)
>>WRITE IN CHOICE_____AIM________________________
>>
>>I look forward to replying later on these results. Email to:
>> [log in to unmask]
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>>* Jon Ahrendsen, M.D. FAAFP, LLLI Medical Associate *
>>* 215 13th Ave SW *
>>* Clarion, Iowa 50525 USA *
>>* 515-532-2836, FAX 532-2523, Email [log in to unmask] *
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>>
>Artificial Baby Milk as WHO says
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>
>Date: Tue, 5 Dec 1995 16:18:30 +0500
>From: Susan Betz <[log in to unmask]>
>Subject: greetings
>
>To the people of Lactnet,
>Hello, my name is Susan Betz. I am the mother of three children,
>Jasmine, 7 1/2, and twin girls, Dylan and Maya, 2 1/2. I have nursed
>all of my children; Dylan and Maya are still nursing and show no sign
>of weaning.
>
>I run a breastpump depot in a semirural area of Ohio. We have an
>active La Leche League in town, of which I am a member but not a
>Leader. I enjoy the business aspects of the depot, and avoid
>counseling outside of encouragement. However, my clients seem to fall
>into two very disparate groups: crisis cases (premies, sick babies,
>all of whom are transferred to a children's hospital over an hour away)
>and working mothers who are motivated to pump their milk for their
>babes. Sometimes I must do counseling, especially when I sense that
>the person on the other end isn't going to make that second phone call
>to the LLL Leader.
>
>I genuinely appreciate the sharing of information that Lactnet
>subscribers provide. It's great to have another resource at my
>fingertips.
>Susan Betz
>
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>
>Date: Tue, 5 Dec 1995 16:30:52 -0500
>From: Dennis Ferrell <[log in to unmask]>
>Subject: Ductal pains in nonlactating/breast binding
>
>Lisa wrote re a case needing MD/LC for what she heard as being ductal =
>yeast.
>Coincidentally,I recently had a woman call with similar complaints,plus =
>the following:
> Woman had discontinued breastfeeding due to sore,cracked nipples =
>and
> inability to get babe onto inverted nipple.Mom claims both =
>are/were inverted.
> =20
>Mom had been given shield when in hospital and told me how "those things =
>really screwed me up"
>Baby would only take left side WITH the shield,and took the right side =
>without it.Said she worked hard at d/c it completely,.but no avail.=20
> Mom states she "had so much milk"...
>
>I was not contacted until one month AFTER mom had =
>weaned.....................I contacted Md office-how nice to reach these =
>moms early,before the problem magnified.///! And am sharing copy of JHL =
>with hospital and alternatives to shields in Human Lactation.
>
> Mom goes on to say that she had been using ACE bandages to =
>bind,following
> instructions given her by her OB HCP and low and =
>behold,Mastitis occurred
> one week after the weaning/binding occurred.....
>
>We talked about fibrocystic-Yes,she has it and had been catching up on =
>drinking caffeineted beverages,etc.
>And Ice,which had never been mentioned to her recollection.I mentioned =
>possibility of Yeast but she said
>babe has no s/s ....so will check on her in a week or she will call =
>sooner.
>
>Mom c/o deep,stinging pains not like her let-downs.I asked her if she's =
>pregnant...she said no,her period started last
>few days.....She noticed these pains around the time her Md RX birth =
>control pills,and after 2 days of increased breast
>pain,she stopped the pills.....
>
>So,it has been exactly 6 weeks since she stopped nursing and these pains =
>persist.Possibly laying off caffeine and ice
>will improve situation,but is it possible that there is candida due to =
>HX of nipple trauma and mastitis.I think so,but I haven't
>heard of this before.=20
>
>Is there data re breast binding...I told the office nurse that this is =
>not routinely recommeded and is controversial but couldn't site
>a reference...I will check earlier digests--if anyone knows the =
>particular date thank you.
>Denise Ferrell,IBCLC
>New Palestine,IN
>
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>
>Date: Tue, 5 Dec 1995 13:41:43 -0800
>From: Deborah A Vandermey <[log in to unmask]>
>Subject: Freezing HM in Bags
>
>Has the information about the disadvantages of storing human milk in
>Pl----x bags been published? If so, could someone post the reference?
>
>TIA, Debi
>
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>
>Date: Tue, 5 Dec 1995 17:43:55 -0500
>From: Diane Wiessinger <[log in to unmask]>
>Subject: clean kits
>
>I used to buy the non-sterile kits, assemble for the mom, and on those
>occasions when she was in immediate need of pumping (eg engorgement),
>would tell her the company policy of boiling first, explain that it was
>probably a policy born of liability concerns, and that the kit was clean
>but not sterile. Most moms opted to use it on the spot without boiling.
>
>All the talk about liability (interestingly, not about pathogens) at an
>LC conference made me switch to the sterile kits.
>
>But I still usually put them together for the mother. I have *her* press
>the valves on tightly, and have *her* insert or remove the flange inserts,
>because those parts touch milk or breast, but I do the rest of the assembling
>myself with freshly washed hands.
>
>I've always felt what Jan said, that clean is good enough for healthy
>people. Am I ok on this one? I'm not after "liability clean"; I'm after
>"effectively clean", figuring that if I protect the mother from real-world
>pathogens I've automatically protected myself from real-world liability.
>
>Again, your thoughts?
>
>Diane Wiessinger, MS, IBCLC, LLLL Ithaca, NY
>
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>
>Date: Tue, 5 Dec 1995 18:23:56 -0500
>From: Pearl Shifer <[log in to unmask]>
>Subject: LC Humor
>
>Thanks, Jeanette, for your post called "Lactation Humor".
>One question, where do my three sons sign up for COLiC?
>Pearl Shifer
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>
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>
>Date: Tue, 5 Dec 1995 18:02:40 -0600
>From: "Dr. Tom Hale" <[log in to unmask]>
>Subject: Re: LACTNET Digest - 4 Dec 1995 - Special issue
>
>To Jay: Re Lead poisoning:
>
> To reiterate, Jay and her family discovered their dishes contained
>lead...
>
> It would very unlikely that you have absorbed sufficient lead from
>your dishes to have produced lead poisoning. Lead is only extracted from
>dishware under acidic conditions, that is, storing wine, or vinegar in a
>pot containing lead. Under these conditions(acidic), lead can be
>extracted from the pottery.
>But to allievate your worry, I would have a clinical laboratory run a lead
>screen on yourself. Be sure it is a venous drawn sample(NOT finger stick,
>they're highly erronious). I really doubt you've had significant
>absorption. If you have high levels, then you need to see a toxicologist
>who can chelate you to remove the lead, its really quite easy and
>nontraumatic nowadays. I would personally ask the store that sold you
>these dishes to pay for the lead assay, and maybe even the therapy if
>necessary. There is no reason for dishware to contain lead today, its
>absolutely stupid.
>
> If your lead level is very high, then chelation is required and it
>is conceivable that it could dramatically elevate your milk lead levels. I
>would be very cautious during this process, concerning breastfeeding.
>Normal lead ranges are considered to be less than 10 mcg/dl.
>
>
>Tom Hale
>
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>
>Date: Tue, 5 Dec 1995 19:43:17 -0500
>From: Rona Cohen <[log in to unmask]>
>Subject: Re: LACTNET Digest - Use of word breast aol
>
>Steve, As a professor @ UCLA who has taught sexuality, women's health issues
>and breastfeeding & presented these topics for the past 15 years in TV talk
>shows, CNN etc. I am very disappointed that AOL would consider the word
>breast as "dirty". It is amazing what we can say in movies, on TV, and in
>print. Would we also consider all male part's names also as "dirty" & not
>refer to them in medical information etc. Let's make it equal for all! If
>so, we could not mention parts that belong in bras or condoms.Rona Cohen
>RN,MN, FPNP, IBCLC <RonaCohenAaol.com>
>
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>
>Date: Tue, 5 Dec 1995 20:09:21 -0500
>From: pat Bull <[log in to unmask]>
>Subject: BF RATES
>
>Happy Holidays Netters,
>
>I just received the latest stats on BF (Ross of course) They are from 1995,
>first quarter.
>
>Total #= 1353, non--WIC
>
>Initiation- Total BF & BF + Supp.; 68%
> BF only ; 54.9%
> BF + Supp. ; 12.9%
>
>1 week BF only ; 54.5%
> BF + Supp. ; 11.5%
>
>1 month - Total BF & BF+ Supp.; 59.2%
> BF only ; 46.6%
> BF+Supp. ; 12.6%
>
>3 months - Total BF & BF+Supp.; 45.8%
> BF only ; 28.7%
> BF+Supp. ; 17.1%
>
>4 months - Total BF & BF+Supp. ; 36%
> BF only ; 19.8%
> BF+Supp. ; 16.2%
>
>6 months - Total BF & BF+Supp. ; 25.6%
> BF only ; 14.5%
> BF+Supp. ; 11.1%
> BF only ; 46.2%
>
>If these are correct, it looks like the rates have gone up slightly,
>especially the duration.
>
>Pat Bull, RN, IBCLC/The BFC
>754 Raintree Dr.
>Naperville, IL 60540
>(708) 420-2172
>
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>
>Date: Tue, 5 Dec 1995 21:46:24 -0500
>From: Kathleen Bruce <[log in to unmask]>
>Subject: season of appreciation
>
>I was wondering if perhaps anyone would like to do me a favor.
>
>Norm Aleks, the young medical student who works at UMMED, works very hard to
>maintain the computer that runs this list. He is paid for this, BUT....he
>does such a good job.
>
>If anyone wanted to write a BRIEF note of thanks to him, it would brighten
>his day. His address is:
>
>[log in to unmask]
>
>It would be nice to keep it very short..and sweet. By the way, I already
>told him that he knows more about breastfeeding already than any medical
>student on the face of the EARTH. : )
>
>: )
>
>Seasons Greetings.
>
>Kathleen
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