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I like mother's using olive oil for lubrication with pumping.  It is very effective, doesn't go on thick and gooey (like lanolin), and is edible too--so if some is in the milk, it shouldn't be a problem.  I love the idea of packaging 2 ounce bottles for mothers to use.  That is very clever!
Maureen Allen RN, BSN, IBCLC
Boston, MA
 
 
 
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From: Susan Burger <[log in to unmask]>
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Sent: Mon, 3 Apr 2006 20:49:27 -0400
Subject: Re: Olive oil and angled flanges


Dear all:

 I tried to post last night, but my cranky computer that likes the temperature 
to be below 45 
degrees Farenheit crashed when I had almost finished. 

Felina of the Upper Breast Side urged me to post about the angled flanges.  On 
this one - my full 
disclosure is that I almost swiped the prototype off the table at the ILCA 
conference almost 2 years 
ago because I had a client that had a poorly nursing baby, had terrible nipple 
pain (so even the 
SNS was excruciating), and didn't release at all to the pump.  I referred her to 
the breastfeeding 
medicine specialist who thought the ductal placement was awry.  We could both 
feel milk in there, 
but couldn't get it out through any means at our disposal. 

Sooo.....   I had a few free samples at my own request because I wanted to try 
them out.  I would 
not be a credible researcher on this topic because I'm already convinced they 
are fabulous for 
some women.  Someone else must do the double blinded research.  (I actually 
think one could do 
a blindFOLD test of comfort with application of various style shields).

Yes, for certain women who have pain on pumping, these angled shields work 
exceptionally well.  
The difference is greater for women with large elastic breasts - the kind that 
will spill out of the 
sides of the shields, but the areola and nipple are loose inside the shield.  
These angled shields 
seem to suck the tissue up into the shield area.   

I think the reason why the pain is less is that the pressure points are 
distributed.  The top part of 
the shield has three grooves rather than the abrupt angle change where the 
cylinder comes out 
around the areola.  Underneath there is a sort of grip pad that keeps the milk 
from leaking.

Women who have small taut or even large taut breasts report less of a difference 
in terms of 
pumping discomfort.

However, even for these women, the angled shields work fabulously well if they 
have had a 
difficult delivery and are recovering (e.g. after preeclampsia when the blood 
pressure isn't yet 
down).  This is because they lie down at a 30-35 degree angle and the milk will 
go into the bottles 
without pooling, especially with a camisole top with two holes cut in the 
underneath shelf bra 
layer so they can do Hands Free pumping.  I find a camisole top with highly 
stretch elastic works 
better than a regular Hands Free bra during the early days when they may be 
engorged because 
the tops usually have more elasticity and don't put too much pressure on the 
overly full breast.  
Later, the Hands-Free bras make work better when the breasts are more elastic 
and need more 
pressure or support to release milk.

Olive oil is a miracle cure.  It works much better than sticky creams because 
the skin glides rather 
than sticks.  You have to tell women to rub it in like hand lotion so that they 
don't slather 
themselves with the olive oil to the point that it gets mixed in with the milk 
or the shields no 
longer stick.  Just a light coating rubbed in.

So, there is my biased opinions.  I'm totally happy if a noninvolved source who 
never received the 
free samples checks and verifies my impression of these shields.

Best regards, 
Susan E. Burger, MHS, PhD, IBCLC

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