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Brooke Simmons <[log in to unmask]>
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I believe this is a place for Health Care Professionals, I don't think they 
are allowed to diagnose on this forum nor could they without seeing you in 
office. Try you'r local LaLeche League or a Local Lactation Consultant, 
there maybe help at no cost from a Laction Consultant or someone trained to 
help you at you'r local W.I.C office.
~Brooke Simmons

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From: "Beth Fitzpatrick" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 11:24 AM
Subject: Question about nursing 17 month old-LONG!


> Hi everyone.  I have questions about my 17 month old, who is still 
> nursing, initiated by her, 4-5 times per day.  I have taken Domperidone 
> since she was 3 months old, since when I returned to work then I was 
> hardly able to pump anything, even with the Medela Classic.  That was a 
> God/LC send :D.  I was able to successfully exclusively breast-feed for 
> seven months, at which time we introduced regular table food and she 
> continued nursing quite a few times a day.  I have "allowed" baby-led 
> weaning with this one and my last one.  The others had to be weaned early 
> for various reasons.  My last son weaned himself slowly and comfortably. 
> Around a year old he went down to just morning and night.  Then one night 
> when he was 16 months old he nursed and then wasn't interested the next 
> morning or ever again.   This one "cut back" some around one.  She was 
> still nursing about 3-4 times a day but not for very long each time.  So I 
> quit taking the Dom.  About six weeks later, she became more interested, 
> nursing more often and for a good length of time.  So, I started taking 
> the Dom. again.  She also was never sick a day in her life until after she 
> was 1.  Now she can't seem to stay well.  She runs very high fevers and 
> though she eats like a horse (nursing plus eating more regular food than 
> some of my school-age kids), she doesn't gain and/or looses weight. 
> She's been tested for everything under the sun, and it's always normal. 
> So that's all background info.  I have three questions/observations now :) 
> :
>
> 1) My left breast is drastically bigger than the right.  She's never had 
> any problems latching but usually preferred the right.  I always got a 
> little less from the left side pumping, but it was within an ounce of the 
> right.  Now she pretty much REFUSES the left breast.  When I pump, I 
> hardly get anything from the left (as in 3-4 ounces from the right and 
> under and ounce from the left).  I'm wondering which came first-decreased 
> production on that side for some reason, which led to her rejecting it. 
> Or visa-versa.  If the production decreased FIRST, what would cause that 
> on just one side?  If she rejected it first, why would she do that after 
> 16 months?
>
> 2) My pumped milk has only a barely detectable fat layer.  Is this normal 
> for this stage of nursing?  With my other son who nurse a long time, I 
> never pumped, so I never saw the milk.  I know I used to get a very thick 
> fat layer when I pumped routinely with this child.
>
> 3) This involves pumping itself.  For a month I was using the Medela 
> Classic at the hospital I work at.  I then bought a Medela PIS and had 
> excellent results (same as with the Classic).  After six months, I 
> switched to working nights.  Since my baby didn't nurse during the night, 
> I didn't pump during the night.  So I haven't routinely pumped since 
> August.  A couple of weeks ago I started picking up some day and evening 
> shifts.  I was trying to pump once per shift around the time my toddler 
> normally would.  With my PIS, I literally got NOTHING.  Not even drops 
> coming out.   It felt like there wasn't even any suction.  I checked to 
> make sure everything was connected right, and it was.  My friend has been 
> using my pump with no problem.  So then I tried the hospital pump, which 
> they've changed to the Lactina.      The first few shifts, I got next to 
> nothing with that also (1-2 ounces total after it had been six hours since 
> she nursed).  Yesterday I was able to get five ounces with the Lactina, 
> mostly from my right side.  This is around what she takes, as of the last 
> "curiosity transfer weight" we did a couple of weeks ago :).  All of that 
> is to ask what would cause me to be unable to pump anymore when it was so 
> successful before?  I am completely stunned by the absolute lack of milk 
> with the PIS, when before that worked wonderfully.  After 17 months 
> pumping is more for relief than for supply issues, but still it is 
> puzzling.  I've tried taking something of hers to smell, thinking about 
> her-all the tricks used in the beginning of pumping :).
>
> I know this is long and more boring than a lot of interesting 
> topics/issues that come up on here.  But I've been wondering about these 
> things for a while.  Thanks in advance for any feedback, on the list or 
> privately!!
>
> Beth Fitzpatrick, mommy of 6!
> "When in despair, remember that all through history the way of truth and 
> love has always won; there have been tyrants and murderers, and for a time 
> they can seem invincible, but in the end they always fall." Gandhi
>
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