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Hi All
I totally agree with Karleen, we can not draw a line in the sand about
this. We either support the Code or we don't.

Medela benefit from their work with us as well, it is not a one way
flow.

I have had a problem with their principles in the past which is why
10-15 years ago I had no choice but to use another brand of pump as at
the time the Medela pump was not standards approved in Australia.
Subsequently they approached me to replace all the pumps I currently use
in our maternity unit. I have not done this on because the current 
pumps work well.

Gwen

Gwen Moody
CNC Postnatal Care
Westmead Hospital
PO Box 533 Wentworthville 2145
Phone: 02 9845 6964, 0422212774
Fax: 02 9845 8340
Page: 02 9845 5555 - 01135
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>>> [log in to unmask] 02/03/2009 7:38 am >>>
Every time we discuss this on Lactnet somehow the confusion arises that

saying that a company should abide by the minimum standards of ethical

marketing of their products means that there is something inherently
bad in 
the products themselves. THIS IS NOT THE SITUATION. Don't confuse
things. 
The Code prohibits marketing of any product under the scope of the Code
to 
the public. This includes bottles. Upholding the Code protects and
babies 
and mothers. Turning a blind eye harms them.

Also, Companies are about making profits. They will make the decisions
that 
result in the greatest profits. It seems that Medela may have decided
that 
they will maximise their profits by marketing bottles direct to
consumers. 
They have determined that either they do not need relationships with 
lactation supporters and orgs OR that they will be able to retain 
relationships with lactation supporters or orgs regardless of marketing

practices that breach the Code. They won't go out of business- if the 
marketing of bottles to the public started to adversely impact their
bottom 
line they would immediately cease this.
Karleen Gribble
Australia

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "angie sohler" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 5:28 AM
Subject: Be careful what you wish for...


I find the discussion on Medela interesting.  While we all agree that
Code
violators should be sanctioned, there is a real possibility of doing
just 
what
was mentioned...shooting oneself in the foot, or worse... shooting
babies in
the foot.  Do you REALLY want to see Medela put out of business?
Without hospital grade, electric breastpumps like the Symphony, we
remove a
tool that is there for use for those who really NEED not just any 
breastpump,
but a good breastpump.  Yes, hand expression can be an alternative for
certain situations, but for the mother who expresses 8 -12 times/day? 
The
mother traveling from home to the NICU for 3+ months?  The mother with
an
infant with a g-tube and oral aversion who will never breastfeed? The
mother
of the child with Down Syndrome who cannot breastfeed effectively
enough to
maintain an ample supply?
While I support the Code 100%, I also support my patients... and just
as
importantly, I support my right to be able to continue to adequately
express
breastmilk for my special needs child who eats nothing by mouth. 
Please be
careful what you wish for.


Angie Sohler, RN, RLC, IBCLC
Most importantly, mother to 8
with 1 special needs child who at 2 years old still recieves my freshly

pumped
breastmilk (and who, by the way, never got a drop of formula)

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