No, lab coats are worn by lab techs more than docs.
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Topics of the day:
1. TIC
2. dressing in lab coats
3. gender and breastfeeding
4. gender and bf
5. LACTNET Digest - 21 Aug 2003 - Special issue (#2003-1129)
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Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2003 21:27:52 -0400
From: Naomi Bar-Yam <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: TIC
>TIC?
I think it means tongue in cheek.
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Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2003 18:35:34 -0700
From: Arly Helm <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: dressing in lab coats
Those who are wearing lab coats:
Do you feel that certain lengths or styles are off-limits because they
seem to suggest you may be a physician or pharmacist? Or do you feel
comfortable wearing whatever length or style suits your needs?
I've been thinking about this for some time and it seems an
appropriate time to throw it out there for discussion.
Arly Helm, MS, IBCLC
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Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2003 22:51:19 -0400
From: Naomi Bar-Yam <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: gender and breastfeeding
> I suppose you can't really argue with
>someone's comfort level, but I would think that a mother who feels this way
>might want to stop bathing the child (wouldn't want him remembering THAT)
>and what about diapering? getting dressed every day? children definitely
>need help dressing long past the age where they beging forming memories.
>Still, as others have noted, many mothers who have these feelings never even
>begin nursing because of them.
I don't think the issue is the mother's erotic feelings at
intimate contact with the baby/child, but rather the child's
erotic feelings at seeing and being in contact with a private part of
the mother's body. BTW, many parents will not bathe with their
children (particularly of the opposite sex) after age one or many 1.5.
Naomi Bar-Yam
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Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2003 22:01:13 -0500
From: breastfeeding matters <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: gender and bf
I asked my son, Dan, who is 28 yrs old and the father of a 6 week old baby boy, *Big Z*, what he felt about bf and sexuality. Dan nursed for 2 1/2 years. In his reply, which I have permission to quote, he refers to his sisters, Abby and Chana. BTW, I should mention that his wife, Eliz, is breastfeeding after breast reduction surgery and her only *problem* is oversupply!
I find it interesting that he refers to babies *feeding* rather than *breastfeeding.*
You can see a pic of Dan and baby Zachariah at:
http://tao.merseine.nu/~dsr/baby/buddha_nature_and_kid.jpg
Dan writes:
"I have a single vague memory that I can trace back to being two years
old; interestingly, it's about going grocery shopping with Dad. I have
no memories of breastfeeding myself. I do have memories of watching Abby
and Chana feed, and dozens if not hundreds of occasions of knowing that
various babies were getting fed. These all seemed perfectly normal to
me, and when I started having sexual thoughts, breastfeeding women
played no role in them.
I can see that Z. is very happy when he is at the breast, and takes
great comfort in it, but I could not describe any of it as being
remotely sexual. For one thing, the happiness that he feels when
attached is clearly a calm, quiet, peaceful "rightness" and uncaringness
similar in my mind to Buddhist' Nirvana, which I can tell you is not at
all the joy of orgasm or even sexual excitement. If anything, it's at
the opposite end of the pleasure spectrum. If you've had the pleasure of
having eaten really well, sipped an exquisite liqueur, all while having
a pleasant conversation with good friends, that's the sort of experience
I think Z. has at the best of times on the breast."
> As for the impact on the boy... those of you who know boys who have
> breastfed and can remember having breastfed, what memories do they
> have of it? Has it hurt them, personally or socially, to remember
> that they suckled on their mother?s breast?
"I have friends who are gay, bisexual, straight and neuter, friends who
are committed monogamists and others who preach polygamy. Some are into
BDSM and others extremely vanilla... and I have never heard any of them
claim that their orientation or any other part of their sexuality was
based on having breastfed.
The only anti-breastfeeding statements I have heard have come from
teenagers and early 20's females who have told me that they thought it
was "yucky"."
> And then, the issue of gender. Are girls breastfed longer because of
> their gender? Does a mother feel it is less "sexual" to
> breastfeed a daughter? Does the public frown more on a breastfeeding
> toddler boy than on a breastfeeding toddler gril?
"We've only had positive experiences concerning Z's public snacking so
far. I'll let you know of anything negative as it comes up."
Norma Ritter
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Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2003 23:06:02 EDT
From: Sherry Weersing <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: LACTNET Digest - 21 Aug 2003 - Special issue (#2003-1129)
It always amazes me that employers are so careful to provide "smoke breaks"
during working hours yet harass moms for taking pumping breaks and that other
employees make such a big deal out of doing something so completely healthy.
Boggles the mind. Sherry Weersing RNC
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