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I believe it would depend on the comprehensiveness of the vaccine. If the
vaccine is missing components of the virus, the body may or may not produce
the correct antibodies to the offending virus. There has been talk that the
H1N1 is a combination of 4 different viruses - not sure if this is accurate
or not, but it seems to be flying in the "government caused hysteria"
communities.

I'm thinking the IgG (or is it A?) provides a coating which basically helps
viruses slide down into the digestive tract to be destroyed by acid or base
(depending on how far into the GI system the virus moves). So, it may not be
that the baby develops specific antibodies at all, it may be that the immune
system is able to move the virus through the waste system before it can
attack the baby.

Either way, the immunity to the baby is temporary. If the mother gets the
flu, her immunity should be permanent. Not true for the vaccine.

Best wishes,
Sam Doak
Marietta OH


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Dear all,

The new flu is a hot issue and gets a lot of coverage in the Dutch
newspapers.
One of my colleagues has a very specific question with regard to immune
response.
He will have a couple of statements in a national newspaper tomorrow and
wants to underpin what he says and we thought was obvious, but is questioned
by someone else.
Here we go: if a mother gets the flu, she will produce antibodies, specific
antibodies.
Does breastfeeding convey general immune factors or does it also transfer
these specific sub-groups of IgG-antibodies?
And is there a difference between a mom who gets the flu and a mom who gets
the vaccination?
Will both situations have the same effect on her antibody response and will
she have those specific antibodies in her milk?
Of course: breastfeeding protects, but is it the general protection that
helps or is it specific protection, tailored to this specific flu that will
get into that breastfed babe?
I find it quite hard to fully grasp it in all its intricate detail and will
(as Gonneke suggested on another list... hahaha) definitely try and get my
hands on Hanson's book.
I'm not there yet, though, and would love to hear from you whether you can
point us to some kind of explanation that might be used for the larger, more
ignorant public as well.
Thanks in advance, for your swift and knowledgeable input! :-)

Warmly,

Marianne Vanderveen IBCLC, Netherlands>>

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