Hi again everyone
just an update on the 'solid breast'. I saw the mum today after her visit to
the breast surgeon - he drained the abscess again and intends to do it again
on Thursday. The breast is far less inflammed now, considerably less swollen
but still very hard. The baby can latch at least - she can even poke out her
tongue at dad now following the tongue being snipped and lots of practice!
there is still very little milk flow. We did the reverse pressure trick but
got a little response plus used the vibrator.
the plan for now is to keep massaging, applying heat, using the supply line
to keep babe at breast, at least there is some evidence of ducts clearing as
I saw evidence when I did the reverse pressure.
Thank you to all who have sent me ideas and good wishes - this really is a
fantastic support network and the mum is really impressed at the way we all
support each other
Jenni
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> 1. Compounding Pharmacy
> 2. delayed lactogenesis/cardiac surgery
> 3. breastfeeding terminology
> 4. Liz and Nausea
> 5. Breastfeeding Promotion "quote"
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> Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2002 21:40:25 -0500
> From: Connie Chiavario <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Compounding Pharmacy
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> Here's a link to a compounding pharmacy in Naperville, Illinois. We have
> had mothers get Dr. Newman's all purpose nipple ointment, Gentian Violet,
> and Domperidone from this pharmacy. As long as they have an Rx, there is
no
> problem. One mother had a low milk supply, and a history of depression,
so
> we recommended Domperidone. Her nurse-midwife came to our office and
wanted
> more information about Domperidone, and seemed a little nervous about
having
> the Doctor prescribe it, however, the mother insisted and has really
brought
> her milk supply up substantially.
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> We have had excellent experiences with this pharmacy.
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> Connie Chiavario, IBCLC
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> http://www.martinavenue.com/
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> Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2002 02:47:45 +0000
> From: laurie wheeler <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: delayed lactogenesis/cardiac surgery
>
> i also thought of severed nerves but then someone pointed out correctly
that
> early lactation or lactogenesis II is governed by the endocrine, not
> autocrine, system. or maybe the mom did experience a mild, transient
> fullness which was sort of overlooked, and then the autocrine system
didn't
> kick in due to the severed nerves.
> however, perhaps you need to look for horses, not zebras. it could be
> retained placenta. i don't remember the original post, so not sure what
> other mommy or baby factors might play a part.
>
> Laurie Wheeler, IBCLC, MN, RN
> New Orleans Louisiana, s.e. USA
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> Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2002 12:45:39 +1000
> From: Denise Fisher <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: breastfeeding terminology
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> I'm enjoying the discussion on breastfeeding terminology. In Australia
> (and I presume England) to nurse a baby means just that - cuddle the baby
> in your arms - granddads, aunties, siblings, dads, anyone can nurse a
baby.
> To me when I hear someone say they are going to "feed the baby" I presume
> (from my natural bias) that they are going to breastfeed. :-) So to me
> 'to feed a baby' and 'to breastfeed a baby' both sound very normal and
> natural and are entirely interchangeable in my vocabulary.
>
> Maybe we should be being more specific about noting the 'abnormality' ie.
> "she's going to bottle feed" and every other reference to feeding is
> presumed to mean the norm, at the breast.
>
> When I was working in a postnatal unit we always referred to the act of
> feeding formula as "artificial feeding". ie. Mrs XYZ in Bed 24 is
> artificially feeding on abc formula". I didn't think twice about this
> until one of the midwives I work with mentioned that she felt it was
> derogatory (yes, she had artificially fed her babies). I must admit I did
> give it some thought, actually agree with her, but then ... it's the
truth!!
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> Denise
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> Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2002 23:04:27 EDT
> From: Annie Versteeg <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: Liz and Nausea
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> In a message dated 8/11/02 7:26:25 PM, [log in to unmask]
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> << I have been having a rough time balancing the darn pain medication and
> nausea and vomiting. >>
> OK, It is off topic, but very important!
> Dear Liz,
> Have you tried Domperidone???? Isn't that what it's used for?
> It is good to hear you are feeling better. I just finished Lance
Armstrong's
> book (It's Not About the Bike). If you haven't already received a million
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> learned plenty about cancer and recovery that I never understood before.
> Sending you warm healing energy,
> Annie VerSteeg IBCLC
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> Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2002 23:12:36 EDT
> From: "Mary Kay Smith, IBCLC" <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Breastfeeding Promotion "quote"
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> I don't recall an exact "quote" but have seen in print, information that
> states that several casual and frequent mentions of breastfeeding at every
> prenatal visit, is more effective breastfeeding promotion than a one hour
> class in the third trimester. I'll try to find the exact study but can't
> promise anything! Moving office equipment for my DH new job which requires
> some "sharing" of home office space.
> Mary Kay Smith, RN, IBCLC
> Romeoville IL
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