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Helen Butler <[log in to unmask]>
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 Hello Virginia
> It's certainly frustrating.  And certainly cultural too,  our own doc is 
> Chinese and his attitude to dairy is quite different.  I actually quite 
> understand this mother wanting to find  an animal milk she could  use in 
> some cooking - there are so many  food items you have to avoid when you 
> are avoiding dairy.
> While  water buffalo are  bovines, they are a different species and  their 
> milk does seem to have a different composition to  your average dairy 
> cow's [ <http://www.buffalomilk.co.uk/id20.htm >, 
> <http://www.bbc.co.uk/insideout/east/series7/buffalo_milk.shtml>] .
> I know people who   cannot tolerate wheat, but can tolerate the v closely 
> related spelt.  I think a lot of information for this is anecdotal

> Love
> Helen
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: <[log in to unmask]>
> To: "Lactation Information and Discussion" <[log in to unmask]>
> Cc: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2008 6:51 AM
> Subject: Terminology (breastmilk is milk)
>
>
>> Helen Butler, posted about a baby girl with pasty stools.  Helen, it 
>> looks as if you provided the support that mother in England needed, for 
>> as long as she needed.  However, as I read it, the little girl did nicely 
>> on *milk*.  It was only non-human milks were that were a problem.  Why, 
>> oh why, does the community think that bovine milk is "milk" and that a 
>> baby isn't on milk until non-human milk passes her lips?  (Okay, it's 
>> cultural, and deeply embedded.)  I'm sure you find this frustrating, too.
>>
>> I am curious that the baby has problems with cow's milk but is having 
>> buffolo milk, which is also bovine.  Do you have more information?  Does 
>> anyone out there have experience of this?  This could be an interesting 
>> discussion.
>>
>> New Year resolution on terninology:  Breastfeeding is normal.  Breastmilk 
>> is normal milk.  If we refer to cow's milk as just "milk", we are 
>> normalising it in the context of young humans.  How about in 2009 we make 
>> an effort to use the simple term "milk" for the human variety of milk, 
>> and label the other types of milk by what they are?  Cow's milk, buffolo 
>> milk, goat's milk, sheep's milk, manufactured milk.  I made this change 
>> some time ago.  Care about semantics leads to changes in thinking.  (Why 
>> does this sound radical?  It shouldn't.)
>>
>> Update:
>> Yes, I'm still in a nursing home, very slowly healing.  Rehab is still a 
>> few weeks away.  I'm thankful to have my laptop and a wireless internet 
>> connection, and I can continue my writing.  I am in the process of 
>> thanking individually the very kind members of Lactnet who have sent me 
>> heart-warming messages for my recovery.  These messages have meant a lot 
>> to me.
>> Warm regards,
>> Virginia
>>
>> Dr Virginia Thorley, OAM, PhD, IBCLC, FILCA
>> Brisbane, Queensland, Australia
>>
> 

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