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"Laura Wright, LLL Leader" <[log in to unmask]>
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Pamela,
I so totally agree with you. In fact, I recently had a discussion with a  
friend who is my mother's age. I said "The primary need of every baby under 3 is  
to be held and attended" I think she covered her shocked expression quite  
well...
How did we loose our ability to nurture and cuddle and connect with our  
babies?
Why have babies if the plan is to shut them up, shut them down and get on  
with OUR life?
Thank you for sharing your opinion. I am glad to know that I am not alone  in 
my concerns about Dr. Karp's methods and the way they are implemented by some 
 parents.
Laura Wright, IBCLC,  RLC

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Date:    Fri, 9 Feb  2007 08:57:53 EST
From:    Pamela Mazzella Di Bosco  <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: HBOTB/Dr. Karp's book-a  dissenter

We have discussed this at great length in the past.  I am  sure there  is 
much 
you can read in the archives.  Unlike the  majority of those  who sing  the 
praises of this technique, I am  not so impressed. Perhaps my  bias is 
partially 
because I am always a  bit bothered when what has been ancient  mother wisdom 
belonging to  women becomes a man's best seller and you need  to become a 
certified  trainer to teach a baby to be calmed, but such is the  American 
Way.   I 
share my dislike for the marketing so you know it may  cloud my  judgment of 
this 
miracle cure for a baby's crying that he   discovered.  I do not like the 
arms 
at the side swaddling.  Yes,  there  is 4th trimester and mimicking the womb 
makes sense. Haven't we  all said  that for years?  Long before he figured 
out 
he  discovered it.  But,  after many ultrasound pictures, I have yet to  see 
a 
baby with arms strapped to  sides.  I have no problem with  swaddling and 
comforting a baby with their  hands near the face for  feeding signals and 
comfort.  I 
don't like the idea  that losing  freedom of movement of their arms makes 
them 
'turn on a reflex' or  the  interpretation of the shutting down as a calming 
behavior when it could  just  as likely be a stress response. Babies shut 
down 
for a lot of  reasons, and  calming is not the only one. Shut down happens in 
 
response to stress too.  Personally, I think it would feel very  stressful to 
have my arms forcefully kept  in a place that does not  feel natural. 

The comment "it works" doesn't mean much to me because  many things  "work" 
but are not necessarily the best thing for a  baby.  Crying it out  does 
train a 
baby to sleep for instance,  formula makes a baby sleep longer for  instance, 
pacifiers stretch out  the length of time between feedings, etc.   Heck, Gary 
Ezzo's  style of baby care works too.  Many things 'work' but  that does not  
equate with 'best for baby'.  Dr. Karp's book gets great  welcomes  from the 
people who expect long stretches of alone time from a  sleeping  baby.  I 
have heard 
many mothers tell me "oh, but if I  don't keep him  swaddled this way he 
wants 
to be held and on the breast  more often:"  A way  to quickly calm a baby who 
has become  disorganized and needs a bit of help to  start over should not 
have  
become a way to keep them quiet and sleeping for  hours on end so they  feed 
less and sleep more.  Breastmilk is digested in  less than  two hours.  Why 
would we want to encourage longer sleep stretches   when babies need to be 
fed more 
often?  The way he forces a baby to  accept  a  pacifier even when the baby 
is 
signaling no thank you  bothers me.   The way he teaches how to put a baby in 
a swing so  you don't have to hold the  baby bothers me.  The way he 
considers  
longer sleep stretches for a  breastfed baby bothers me. That means the  baby 
comes to breast not just  interested in eating but really very  hungry.  This 
does not seem fair to  the baby...to have no ability  to signal for feeding, 
to 
have to wait to be fed  longer than he would  likely choose because his hands 
are swaddled tight and a  pacifier is  in his mouth.  Hunger cues can easily 
be 
missed.  Also,  the  breast and the comfort of mother is more than food.  I 
think his  book  is exactly what most parents want....a task completed, a 
baby  
down, and their  freedom from the care of the baby for as long as  possible. 
Nothing new...quiet  and down is a good baby.  I thought  we had moved beyond 
that 
thought  process?

I do not doubt that  Dr. Karp believes whole heartedly that the best thing  
for a baby is to  lie quiet and sleep for hours and suck on their binky and 
swing 
in their  swing, etc. I assume his intent is see mothers and fathers  find a 
way  to quiet their crying babies.  I just think the best place for a  baby  
is 
in a human's arms, on a human's body, and suckling at a mother's  breast  at 
will. I have no issue with short moments of swaddling for  the calming as 
long  
as the hands are freed and the baby has the  freedom to wake himself up or 
signal  for a feeding without  crying.  I admit I would rather see a baby 
shut down  
to being  straight-jacketed than scream alone in a crib or be abused.   On 
the  
other hand, I also think most of our colic and fussy babies are  symptoms  
that should be addressed and not just shut down.  I say  this as a mom of  
two 
fussy colicky babies who looking back on it could  have used a good  
chiropractor 
and some cst.  Wish I knew then  what I know now. I do swaddle  my little 
ones 
lightly so they can  choose to be free so I am not of the notion  that 
swaddling is  horrible.  Just like I said, hands down with no freedom  to get 
them  
free, no matter how quick a baby shuts down because of it does not   seem 
natural...and if it is not natural how can it be a 'reflex'?  Just  the  
words 'calming 
reflex' do not set well with me.

Yes, I  absolutely know I am in the minority.  I accept that.   Don't  really 
care if the world thinks this book is the answer to every  baby's  cry.  It's 
always good to have a dissenting  view.

Take care,
Pam MazzellaDiBosco, IBCLC,  RLC







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