> Marci wrote:
> "The longest any one has nursed is only 16 mos, but that seems to be typical of babies of OAMER....they never really learn to comfort nurse."
Jennifer Tow responded:
> but I wonder about this comment, as it is a generalization which seems to be based > on nursing your own children.
Hi Jennifer,
I understand your concern, however my comment was actually based on what
I've read about OAMER, which seemed in turn to explain why my babies had
lost interest in nursing younger than some other babies. I have read
several articles that mentioned this as a factor; at least one was on
the LLLI web site.
Recognizing that Lactnet is really not for discussing personal nursing
issues, and bcs I didn't mean for it to go this way at all but it has,
I'll try to keep this brief. But please don't mistake my brevity for
lack of understanding, nor for lack of interest -- I don't think we
should continue a thread which amounts to no more than "how much does
Marci really know about OAMER/night nursing/weaning/whatever".
> you probably used a similar approach to the problem
> w/ each child.
I'm not sure if the "problem" you're referring to is the night nursing,
or the OAMER or the weaning, but I'll answer as best I can. I didn't
learn about OAMER until my 3rd child was 3 mos old....and my first and
second had each handled the situation VERY differently, so I didn't make
all of these connections until much later. And I handled each experience
with each child differently, according to their needs and my
then-current understanding. Then as I began to be educated on the
condition, I started having those little "aha" experiences as I read
various books and articles which seemed to explain so much of what I'd
been through with each one.
> The other thing for me is that I solved the problem while nursing her and did
> not have it w/ nursing again (nor did I w/ my first baby).
OAMER manifests itself differently in each woman, and each baby responds
differently. There are many signs and symptoms that may appear, but they
may not all be present in the same woman, or be the same from one baby
to the next. Some cases are easy to manage, some are more difficult --
it seems to depend on many factors, not the least of which is the baby's
ability to cope with the flow of milk.
That said, I'm not aware that you can actually eliminate the problem for
future babies by "solving" it with one baby. (I'm only making an
educated guess here...I just haven't heard of anyone having OAMER with
only one lactation, per se, and haven't done any research on the matter
myself. Perhaps there is something in the archives?)
> What I am saying is that I realize all
> of your babies weaned early and had difficulty nursing at night, but I would not
> extrapolate from that experience a description all mothers/babies experiencing
> OAMER.
I appreciate what you're saying Jennifer, but that's not what I was
doing. And particularly with OAMER I am very cautious not to ever talk
about what "all" mother/babies experience!! There are so many
variations, so many ways it can manifest. There is no single description
that fits everyone all the time.
And BTW just for the record... only ONE of my babies had extreme
difficulty with night nursing, and I probably could have managed it
better if I'd known more at the time. The others have either had little
or no problem with it, and have nursed at night as long and as much as
they needed to.
Also, I don't feel that any of my babies necessarily weaned EARLY. They
didn't nurse as long as some, and I would gladly have nursed longer
(*that* was the point I was trying to make originally) but they nursed
as long as THEY WANTED TO NURSE. They self-weaned.
I hope this clears up any confusion.56
Marci :)
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