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From: "Rachel Myr" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2007 11:56 AM
Subject: [LACTNET] Breast crawl video redux - long


> I've been following this discussion but not jumping in, until now.

> Please misunderstand me correctly.  I'm not saying that women should have 
> no
> say in who they have with them when they give birth or how they do it;
> anyone who knows me knows that I am a fierce defender of 
> self-determination
> for all people.  I'm not saying we should always turn on the lights and
> invite all the passersby into the birth room to watch, chattering, while 
> we
> film, and then put it on YouTube.  But I'm particularly baffled that 
> people
> in a country where mothers and babies are routinely cared for by entirely
> separate teams of nursing and medical staff in physically separate places,
> and where most care is certainly not determined by what women or babies 
> want
> or need, are objecting so strenuously to this six minute film.

**Thank you, Rachel, for your wonderful 'speech'.
I immensely enjoy reading all contributions to this discussion and am 
constantly adjusting my perspective.
Panta rhei! (Everything flows...)
Congratulations on your son's birthday; it's wonderful to remain a witness 
to your child's growing up!

Warmly,

Marianne Vanderveen, Netherlands

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