Dr. Jack, and others who don't use charts, respectfully, when I was
praising Kay Hoover's chart maybe I sounded too exuberant.  Anyone who
knows me well, knows that I am not a regimented kind of person, however
I'm really into providing information & education to moms, and although
my preference would be to give the minimum info (go home, nurse your
baby, & relax -along with giving some techniques), I've learned that for
lots of moms that isn't enough. (I remember sitting on the sofa nursing
my 1 week old baby, and as she pulled away for a breath and milk was
dripping from her mouth, and rushing from my breast, I was crying because
 maybe I didn't have enough milk and maybe her pot belly meant she was
starving.  And my mother & husband were at first concerned over my tears
and then laughed at me. My mom reminded me of all the diapers we changed/
 but I would have felt better seeing it in writing.) Although I provided
the mothers with the chart, and other observable signs of knowing when
baby has had enough, I personally didn't care if they checked things off
or not, just that they had the info.  I think that we need to remember
that different learning styles has a lot to do with what we are
comfortable with, as well as what our clients are comfortable and we need
to provide enough variety to cover the visual learner, auditory learner &
hands on learner.  As you may have guessed, I'm a visual learner.  Just
my perspective on this.

On sleeping through.  Maybe if we don't 'label' this by attaching
anyone's name to it, it won't have the tendency to offend so easily.  We
all know of the baby's who sleep through from the beginning - I honestly
can't imagine it, but I know it happens.  I do question what happens to
Mom's milk supply.  When I do run into a mom who says their baby sleeps
through at a young age, I caution them that this behaviour can change.  I
see lots of baby's whose sleeping patterns start changing at 4-5 months
as they start those developmental changes.  Personally, my daughter slept
through the night once in her life (bless her little romantic heart - she
was 3 mos old and we were having an overnight getaway at a motel on the
California coast.) She took after her Dad and didn't need a lot of sleep
- a real night owl.  And with the wisdom of passing time, now that she's
22y/o and married. I can clearly state that it had nothing to do with
breastfeeding.  And maybe we did carry the family bed a bit far, she
climbed in our bed about 2 am to talk about 2 nights before her wedding!

On Elizabeth Malone's post about recurrent mastitis, with recurrent
'thrush' as well, I responded privately to her sharing some experience
with several clients with recurrent 'mastitis' who truly had systemic
candida, and that had to cleared up.  Anyone else want to contribute on
this thread?

Kathe Catone
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