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Sorry, I go so emotional, that I forgot the link
http://chickenstitches.blogspot.com/2009/04/chernobyl-day.html
All the best.

-- 
Henya
Brooklyn, NY

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On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 3:10 AM, Henya KnitMammy
<[log in to unmask]>wrote:

> OK. hit me if I am out of line.
> But as someone, who
> 1 - grew up and lived in Russia during the Chernobyl disaster
> 2 - Lived about 30 kilometers from there
> 3 - have family members that died as a result of the catastrophe
> I feel that I need to chime in.
> I looked at the web link you give and while very nicely presented I do not
> think it is reliable, at least the statistics. For one the "immediate
> evacuation" did not start until after May 2Nd, almost a week after the
> explosion.
> For one simple reason. It was a huge cover up by Russia, at the time of the
> disaster no one was verifying the facts Russians recorded. The death toll
> was underreported. so were the permanent injuries.
> Even now, many years after I am still extremely sad and angry about what
> happened. We were not told about the explosion or it's ramifications for a
> wile. On May first there was a huge parade in Chernobyl itself, the
> government got the people from outlying villages to participate too (no
> they, people did not have a choice). My classmates father was a prosecutor,
> we went there to determine the criminal coses of the explosion (basically
> pick those to be arrested). He was a huge man in his 40s, an athlete. A week
> later he died. His family was not allowed to hold a funeral. Would you like
> to know what he and his assistants wore, wile looking at the debris? A suite
> - as in a regular business suite. No protective closing. At all. Soldiers,
> who were working with debris wore summer uniforms. Again no protective
> closing. How do I know? Because my cousin "died in the line of duty" from
> radiation exposure. Than there were the buses. Buses were used to evacuate
> the people when the "nothing special" happened story burst. The buses were
> driven to Kiev (I lived there at the time) the old ladies at the bus park
> hosed then down for cleanliness. No one said anything about radiation
> debris. The people found out that something was wrong when most of this poor
> women died. And so on, and on, and on...
> Than came cancer. There is no way to follow the statistics. Because people
> run frantically. And illegally. At some point one had to have a special
> permission to live Kiev. The school would not release the older students. We
> had to finish out the school year.
> Each person in my family was affected by Chernobyl. Some things were easy
> to see - like hair loss. 16 year old girls usually do not start loosing
> hair. Some things were not apparent until much. much later - like the
> thyroid problems my Mom and my Sister have and my problem with ovaries.
> I have not counted the victims. I think no one can count them. But a
> million people does not sound improbable at all.
> If I still have not bored you, here is the link to my post with memories
> of what was happening.
> May we all be safe.
> --
> Henya
> Brooklyn, NY
>
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> http://chickenstitches.blogspot.com/
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>
>
> On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 6:38 AM, Veronica Garea <[log in to unmask]>wrote:
>
>> I will make some non-breastfeeding remarks and I apologize in advance.
>> However, since this list strives to work with evidence based information,
>> I
>> think I need to make a comment.
>>
>> Janette, you mention in your post that nearly one million people have died
>> as a result of the Chernobyl accident. This claim is not supported by
>> evidence. The Chernobyl cohort is the second most studied group of people
>> with respect to radiation effects (second to the Hiroshima and Nagasaki
>> atomic bomb survivors and their progeny). I suggest reading the UNSCEAR
>> reports on this matter,
>>
>> http://www.unscear.org/unscear/en/chernobyl.html
>>
>> The most relevant results of the studies carried out in the aftermath of
>> the
>> Chernobyl accident pertain to non-human species and the effects of
>> radioisotopes on the ecosystem. There have been no modifications to
>> radiation protection principles for humans as a result of the Chernobyl
>> accident.
>>
>> I can answer any questions privately to avoid clogging up the list with
>> non-breastfeeding matters.
>>
>> Best regards
>>
>>
>> Veronica Garea, ME Nuclear Engineering, MS Math, PhD Engineering Physics
>> Nuclear Safety Specialist
>> (And LLLL, that is why I am on Lactnet)
>>
>>
>>  7. PROBIT
>> > Date:    Wed, 17 Nov 2010 23:20:55 -0500
>> > From:    Jannette Festival <[log in to unmask]>
>> > Subject: PROBIT
>> >
>> > I've been reviewing the PROBIT study and have some questions hopefully
>> > someone has some insight into. Belarus is located north of the Ukraine
>> and
>> > east of Russia. In 1986 the Chernobyl nuclear plant exploded (we're
>> talking
>> > radiation here). 70% of the fallout landed on Belarus. To date, nearly
>> one
>> > million people have died.
>> > Now lets look at Michael Kramers study results. 'A breastfeeding
>> promotion
>> > intervention program does not affect the risk for asthma, allergy,
>> eczema
>> > symptoms, or positive skin prick test results by the age of 6.5 years.'
>> > Really?
>> >
>> > Why was a study of this magnitude done in a country that has had such a
>> > large scale catastrophe on it's people and environment. In Belarus
>> thyroid
>> > cancer in children is over 60 times higher then pre Chernobyl.
>> Apparently
>> > the soil, foliage and water in highly contaminated areas still contain
>> > substantial levels of radioactive chemicals. How can we possibly
>> conclude
>> > from this study that breastfeeding does not have some protective effect.
>> Am
>> > I missing something here?
>> >
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