6 of the 7 are now receiving minute amounts of human milk- They are not
breastfeeding yet. Cathy Liles
>
>Just read in the paper today that 6 of the 7 are now breastfeeding from
>mom.
>WOW!
>
>
>Aloha,
>Gloria Thai  Honolulu, O'ahu, Hawai'i  located 20 degrees North of the
>Equator
>
>Date:    Thu, 7 Jan 1999 15:50:04 -0500
>From:    Kathleen Bruce <[log in to unmask]>
>Subject: children/meds, placenta
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>Hi guys. *please* take these threads of children taking meds and placental
>notes to private email.   It's time. Really.
>
>Thanks. Kathleen : )
>
>Kathleen B. Bruce, BSN, IBCLC co-owner Lactnet,TLC, Indep. Consultant
>Williston, Vermont, where the icy winds are blowing hard...
>mailto:[log in to unmask]
>LACTNET Archives http://library.ummed.edu/lsv/archives/lactnet.html
>
>Date:    Thu, 7 Jan 1999 13:47:36 -0700
>From:    The Jones Family <[log in to unmask]>
>Subject: Adequate stooling, inadequate weight,
>         inadequate intake--physiology (long)
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>Jan,
>
>I have always considered questions about voids and stools to be
>screening questions and weight to be a better indicator of adequate
>intake (assuming scale accuracy, etc., which in this case seems to be a
>valid assumption).
>
>Even if we could come up with a research based answer as to what
>represents adequate stooling, what if the normal for this baby is on the
>high end, but his demonstrated pattern is on the low end?  That number
>of stools could be inadequate for him.  For example, if we accept 2-5 as
>adequate, what if he is having 2, but would be having 5 if he were
>getting enough milk?  What if his normal is to stool at every
>feeding--eight to twelve times a day?  This was normal for my babies.
>
>I wonder about differences in baby's physiology--ability to digest the
>milk, bowel motility, thyroid level, energy and activity level.  Do
>these impact the number and size of his stools?
>
>How about milk compostion--percentage of fat in mom's milk, diurinal
>changes in milk composition, foremilk:hindmilk.  To what extent is
>feeding frequency related to stooling frequency?
>
>Anybody have answers?
>
>I think it comes back to looking at the whole picture, which you did.
>That's how you know something is wrong.
>
>--
>Bonnie Jones, RN, ICCE, IBCLC
>from the sunny S.W. USA
>mailto:[log in to unmask]
>
>Date:    Thu, 7 Jan 1999 16:09:30 -0500
>From:    Robert Cordes DO <[log in to unmask]>
>Subject: lecithin
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>What is lecithin?
>-Rob
>
>
>Rob Cordes, DO, FAAP, FACOP
>Wilkes Barre PA
>mail to:[log in to unmask]
>
>Date:    Thu, 7 Jan 1999 22:47:30 +0200
>From:    Annelies Bon <[log in to unmask]>
>Subject: Dutch BFHI office again
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>
>yesterday i asked you to write the dutch parliament to renew the subsidy of
>the Dutch BHFI offce, so that it can go on working. Esp. other BFHI
>representants are welcomed to write (but others as well),
>
>i've found an emailaddress, so you could email as well....
>
>mailto:[log in to unmask]
>
>2e kamer
>Vaste Commissie voor VWS
>Postbus 20018
>2500 EA  Den Haag
>The Netherlands
>fax + 31 70 3183440
>
>please take a few minutes to write!!!
>
>thank you so much,
>
>annelies bon
>
>Date:    Thu, 7 Jan 1999 16:10:06 -0600
>From:    Susan R Potts <[log in to unmask]>
>Subject: Storksite Letter
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>Dear Janet,
>     That is an EXCELLENT letter, you've done us proud!
>      Staying warm in Minnesota,
>      Susan Potts RN IBCLC
>
>On Thu, 7 Jan 1999 11:25:03 -0500 Automatic digest processor
><[log in to unmask]> writes:
>
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>Date:    Thu, 7 Jan 1999 17:22:22 EST
>From:    "Helen M. Woodman" <[log in to unmask]>
>Subject: Dry Breastfeeding
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>I need to be convinced that a lactating woman can be 'without milk' after
>pumping.  I did not know that the lactating breast could be 'empty'.  Yes,
>you've guessed it, I am playing devil's advocate here :D
>
>Helen Woodman, NCT Bfg Counsellor, Storrington, W. Sx, UK
>
>Date:    Thu, 7 Jan 1999 17:22:51 EST
>From:    "Helen M. Woodman" <[log in to unmask]>
>Subject: Exercise research study.
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>Have these research people not got something else to go and waste their time
>on - why on earth do we need research to <define appropriate information for
>women who desire
>to participate in exercise during the period of lactation.>?  Well, really!
>You can just picture the headlines in the papers when this 'research' is
>published, breastfeeding will come out badly, I think I could place a bet on
>that and win!
>
>regards,
>Helen, Storrington, West Sussex, UK
>
>Date:    Thu, 7 Jan 1999 22:48:57 +0000
>From:    heather <[log in to unmask]>
>Subject: Exercise research study.
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>Helen writes apropos bf and exercise study: 'You can just picture the
>headlines in the papers when this 'research' is
>published, breastfeeding will come out badly'
>
>Yep. Or there will be stupid rules about not exercising before or after
>feeding unless a certain time gap elapses, or needing to replenish salts or
>something, or saying it's okay as long as you don't jog or row or cycle, or
>wear a green t shirt or eat a donut or get too hot or cold or sweaty or
>don't tie your hair back....or something.
>
>There are enough stupid rules about lifestyle and breastfeeding - and
>enough things for women to worry about that they hear on the grapevine
>(I've had calls from women asking if they could eat Camembert cheese and
>breastfeed...seriously. They think they can't because of the supposed
>listeria risk in pregnancy and they've heard it's the same situation with
>bf).
>
>Heather Welford Neil
>NCT bfc Newcastle upon Tyne UK
>
>Date:    Thu, 7 Jan 1999 17:11:51 -0600
>From:    "Mary A. Banaszewski" <[log in to unmask]>
>Subject: HELP: Baby with cleft lip/palate
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>Hello All,
>I need some advice/help from all you great minds out there. This is my
>first case of a baby with cleft palate (have worked with cleft lip before).
>Hx: baby boy born Christmas day, cleft lip apparent but palate was not
>identified until 11 days later (when baby brought to clinic because mom
>concerned he wasn't eating well) and weight was down more than a lb. (from
>8+# to 7#). Mom had previous child with cleft lip who nursed successfully,
>so there was no initial concern with this child as all seemed to be going
>well in the hospital. I was not called in on this case until the weight
>loss was identified. Spent 3 hrs with Mom on 1/5, used all the information
>I had to help with positioning and we got the baby to successfully latch
>with a good seal. Intake was minimal, but I think baby is so nutritionally
>compromised that his suck is too weak. Offered Mom the cup or bottle
>technique of supplementing until baby stronger, she chose to use a bottle
>with premie nipple (hole cut larger) as that was all we had available. My
>boss is getting a Haberman feeder for them to use but it hasn't arrived
>yet.
>The 2 biggest problems are getting a dentist or orthodontist willing to
>evaluate baby for a palatal obturator, she's being told that it's too much
>trouble as baby's mouth will be continually changing and the device would
>have to be readjusted too often. In other words, take the easy way and just
>bottle feed- but this mother really wants to nurse!  The other problem is
>her milk supply. She has never been enthusiastic about breast pumps (needed
>to use one with first baby who was premie) and just can't let down. I've
>given her all the suggestions for relaxation, moist heat and massage, baby
>near by, etc, but she is still only getting about 1 oz total with the
>Lactina pump. Have her eating oatmeal, but I really don't think volume is
>the problem as much as being able to relax using the pump.She had all the
>initial signs of good supply, and even though baby's suck is weak, he has
>been doing some stimulating. Also, she successfully nursed 3 other babies
>so establishing supply should be easier, right? She has been pumping for 2
>days now and volume has not increased at all. Any suggestions, or have I
>missed something here? I really want to help this Mom, she so much wants to
>breastfeed or at least provide breast milk (by the way, we are
>supplementing with abm until she can get her supply up). Thanks for any
>ideas you guys can throw my way.
>Mary A. Banaszewski, RN, IBCLC
>>From frigid Minnesota
>mailto:[log in to unmask]
>
>Date:    Thu, 7 Jan 1999 18:03:07 EST
>From:    "W4 [log in to unmask]" <[log in to unmask]>
>Subject: Diflucan
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>Dawn wanted info for MD's regarding diflucan.
>Diflucan and dosage for mothers with fungal infections in the breast is noted
>in the recent edition of Ruth Lawrence's Breastfeeding (fifth edition). page
>282.
>It gives dosages and states:" Side effects(e.g., nausea, vomiting, diarrhea)
>in the mother are minimal "
>I was most impressed with the fact that it was included in this edition!
>Fritzi Drosten
>
>Date:    Thu, 7 Jan 1999 18:35:52 EST
>From:    Nikki Lee <[log in to unmask]>
>Subject: Infant stooling
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>Dear Folks:
>  I did an informal study on stooling during the first week of life in the
>exclusively breastfed infant. The literature search revealed that there was no
>information, except stooling frequencies for bottle fed babies, or babies
>breastfed in the style of the 40s and 50s, where babies were routinely given
>water, orange juice, and oleum percomorphum (a fish oil derivative).
>  I followed 20 exclusively breastfeeding women from the day of the baby's
>birth up to day 8 with a daily telephone call to ask about breastfeeding and
>about infant stooling. I also looked to see if there was any relationship
>between stooling frequency and weight gain. There wasn't. There was no pattern
>that emerged except that all babies had stooled by the 2nd day postpartum. All
>babies thrived.
>        I personally don't like to take the average of all the bowel
movements and
>give that to the mother because "average" isn't really helpful. If her baby
>stools less, she worries. And if her baby stools more, she worries. It is more
>helpful to teach a mom about what a healthy baby acts like: that it starts
>smiling in the first week of life, and wakes up to feed and also wakes up to
>look around. Baby also pees and either stools or passes gas. Baby feeds at
>least 6 times per day (which number I have seen in NMAA literature as the
>bottom line) and probably more, and needs to be with her all the time, almost
>like she is still pregnant.
>   There is presently another, more formal study going on in Philadelphia
>about stooling, that is finding the same things as I have reported here.
>   The baby is more than the sum of its feeding frequency and number of
>diapers. Warmly, Nikki Lee
>
>Date:    Thu, 7 Jan 1999 18:50:24 -0500
>From:    Cindy Curtis <[log in to unmask]>
>Subject: [Fwd: clinique]
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>Here is the reply that I received from CLinique about their anti aging
>cream ad in Allure that had a baby bottle in it.
>
>Cindy
>
>--------------
>
>Dear Cindy,
>
>Thank you for contacting us.  We were surprised to receive your
>comments, and appreciate this opportunity to address your concern.
>
>Since Clinique's introduction in 1968, we have earned a reputation not
>only for consistently superior products, but for the excellence and good
>sense of our advertising and promotional materials.  We value all of our
>consumers, and we strive for sensitivity in everything we do.  It is
>therefore disheartening to learn of your disappointment.
>
>Please be assured that the ad was not intended to convey any negative
>concept or sentiment other than excitement for our products.
>Nonetheless, your correspondence has reminded us that individual
>perceptions vary.  We do regret you found the ad offensive.  Your
>comments have been forwarded to our Marketing Department, as we are sure
>they will be interested in your remarks.
>
>Once again, thank you for this opportunity to clarify our position.  We
>hope you will continue to look to Clinique for all your skin care and
>makeup needs.
>
>Sincerely,
>
>Clinique Consumer Communications
>