As far as I know my certificate and my card mention certification not till the exam or sending in of CERPS, but up till 5 years after receiving the certification. On my 2002 certificate it says ''for a further perid of 5 years to 31 october 2007'' and om my IBCLC card received that october of 2007 it says ''valid thru 2012''. I can only conclude that I am entitled to carry the initials IBCLC and act as a certified IBCLC untill receiving the next certificate or card, meaning by the end of oktober 2012. No way it can be read as not being certified between july and end of october. CERPS are to be send in or exams have to be taken timely in order to be ready for recertification by that date of october 31th.
Warmly,
Gonneke, IBCLC till october 2012, in southern Netherlands.
--- On Sun, 6/20/10, Marianne Vanderveen-Kolkena <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
From: Marianne Vanderveen-Kolkena <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: [LACTNET] 2012 IBCLC requirements/question if I can ask
To: [log in to unmask]
Date: Sunday, June 20, 2010, 12:08 PM
My... I agree with Chayn on this one.
This is really just a matter of red tape; it has no credibility whatsoever.
That would mean that all of us who have to recertify could not work between taking the exam and receiving the results! What a nonsense!
Can't we do something about that through here, gathering signatures and stating the 'unreasonability' of this...?
All consultations between July and October of recertification candidates would be unethical following this reasoning.
We would have to make sure that nowhere our names would be mentioned with the credentials behind it.
We could not give trainings and presentations, because we would have become 'incapable' of practicing as an expert.
If not, then we have unequal treatment of persons in the same situation, a treatment willingly and clearly harming Amy's best interests (and the clients she could serve were she to proceed normally).
Where to file a complaint about this...? Who gets to supervise IBLCE-decisions...?
Are you an ILCA-member, Amy? Could ILCA help you with this?
Bye,
Marianne Vanderveen IBCLC, the Netherlands (and really glad she decided to get her credentials a few years ago (after having been a volunteer bf counsellor for many years), when there was already some rumour about requirements changing in the not so far away future...)
----- Original Message ----- From: "Amy West" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Sunday, June 20, 2010 6:21 AM
Subject: Re: [LACTNET] 2012 IBCLC requirements/question if I can ask
> Thanks, Chayn, for the kind words. It's pretty frustrating.
>
> The issue with that is that my mentor is recertifying for the first time
> this year (head mentors have to be recertified at least once under Pathway
> 3). I agree that I should be able to begin logging hours after she sits for
> the exam in July. Of course, any hours I put in would be invalid if she
> didn't pass, but I see no reason to wait until she has her results in-hand,
> if I'm comfortable with the risk that she may not pass and my hours would be
> invalid. Obviously, her experience or ability to teach me isn't going to be
> significantly different between July and October, which is the really
> frustrating part. It's just red tape. Those few months are the difference
> between me sitting for the exam, and not.
>
> On Sun, Jun 20, 2010 at 12:07 AM, nandan fogelman <[log in to unmask]>wrote:
>
>> Amy wrote:
>> I'd planned to sit for the exam in 2011; because of red tape with Pathway
>> Three, that's no longer an option. (The IBCLC mentoring me is recertifying
>> in July; IBLCE won't allow me to log any hours prior to when she gets her
>> exam results in late October, which makes it impossible to get the hours
>> done in time. Had they allowed me to log hours beginning after the July
>> exam, I could have completed the hours. Of course, the hours would have
>> only
>> been valid if she received a passing score, but they weren't willing to
>> work
>> with me on that.)
>>
>> I don't understand that reasoning. I have recertified by exam once.
>> During
>> the time that I took the exam and the time that I received my grade, I was
>> still an IBCLC, right? I did not have to stop using the IBCLC letters
>> after
>> my name until receiving a passing grade - but in Amy's case the IBLCE seems
>> to be suspending her mentors credentials between July and October.
>> Something seems very wrong here. Anyone understand this?
>> My heart goes out to you Amy,
>>
>> Chayn Fogelman IBCLC in Israel who was almost didn't get to take the exam
>> the first time but fortunately got through the red tape.
>>
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