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Marianne Vanderveen-Kolkena <[log in to unmask]>
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Thank you, Karleen, for your supportive words! :-)
The painful truth is... the ones who were doing the editing for the bf 
association magazine and refused the ads are the ones running the 
IBFAN-group...!
The board sort of overruled the editors' standpoint to, until the next AGM 
would decide differently, abide by the rules that were laid down: no ads 
from code-violators.
She's among us, so I'll leave it up to her to further explain it, although 
she is very, very, very disappointed by the whole issue and really tired of 
and saddened by all the turmoil.
I've been trying hard to explain to the rest of the colleagues what the 
importance of the code is, but many consider it outdated and exaggerated.
I find this shocking and heartbreaking: those who passionately defend the 
code, now seem to be cornered: "Shut up, don't keep nagging and annoying us 
about this irrelevant issue."
From ABM-fans...? Understandable. From a volunteer bf organisation...?! 
Beyond imagination.

Warmly,

Marianne Vanderveen IBCLC, Netherlands


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Karleen Gribble" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Friday, November 06, 2009 11:23 PM
Subject: Re: [LACTNET] carrying babies


> Hey Marianne,
> Keep on going. Hopefully more with "get it" eventually. You have lots of 
> active IBFAN groups in Europe. I wonder if you can find support from 
> them??
> Karleen Gribble
> Australia
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Marianne Vanderveen-Kolkena" <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Saturday, November 07, 2009 3:30 AM
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: carrying babies
>> make you shout for joy...
>> Or our own breastfeeding association-board that has decided that strict
>> following of the WHO-code is not all that necessary...
>> ABM-promotion... okay... that stinks, but advertising from code violators 
>> as
>> long as their ad is about a product not under the scope...? No problem.
>> So, someone cleverly said: "What about Nutr...., sending in an ad that 
>> says:
>> BREASTFEEDING, THE BEST START or promotion for feeding tubes (not under 
>> the
>> scope, as we know)?"
>> That was considered a impossible option. Ads for pumps... that's okay,
>> because most moms need pumps and so they have to know about pumps (and
>> bottles, too).
>> All this caused a big discussion on the mailinglist, in which I, of 
>> course,
>> could not keep my mouth shut as a fervent promotor of integral compliance
>> with the code.
>> And now... now many are complaining: "The statement of the board is 
>> clear.
>> Let's close this subject. We should be able to buy bottles and pumps, so 
>> why
>> the fuss? I'm tired of this discussion. Noone needs to tell me what info 
>> I
>> need to read to make a decision. I can decide for myself what I think 
>> about
>> the WHO-code."
>
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