Thanks Morgan. Evidence is as good as the person who is looking at it's eyeglasses (or microscope or telescope). I like evidence based medicine mostly, but it sure makes it difficult if YOU are not in the middle of the bell curve! If we only had interchangeable parts, you could go down to Autozone and buy a replacement. To me, that's what formula implies - we all just need the same kind of gas to make our engines burn!
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From: Lactation Information and Discussion [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Morgan Gallagher
Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2009 6:11 AM
Subject: Re: swine flu
This nursing mother has just nursed her 4 year old through swine fever.
We were infected by a 2 year old, who contracted it and wasn't showing symptoms when he visited. Myself and my husband came down with the rather common set of symptoms that are associated with swine flu, which are taking a long time to shake off. A heavy cold, more than a flu. The mother of the 2 year old came down with it quite badly. Her 5 month old baby, whom she nursed continuously, and took to bed with her, did not. She's tandem feeding, and so both infected 2 year old, and 5 month old, were breastfeeding and bed sharing during the worst moments of mother and 2 year old being very poorly. 5 month old as happy as larry, and not a sign of owt.
My 4 year old came down with classic and immediate swine flue, and all we did was treat the temperatures spikes, which were severe. I took my nursling to bed too, and nursed and held him, and gave him the body contact I'd give for any illness. He recovered quickly. Mother of 5 month old reported the swine flue was making her poorly, but it was not as bad as her last bout of mastitis, which made her much more poorly.
She also recovered very quickly.
I'd say, from experience, the best place for the baby, is on the mother, as much as possible. :-)
Not clinical, I know, but you did ask! If it's a choice between breastmilk and tamiflu... we chose breastmilk. Our tamiflu was left on file at the doctor's.
(Incidentally, the bugger with swine flu, is not how ill it makes you feel. It's the classic viral 'drop through a hole in the floor'
feeling,which can turn you into mush in a moment, and last for a few hours. But when you bounce back up, it's fine. All of you out there heading for it, may need that little snippet of experience when it arrives. That, and make sure there is loads of clean laundry to go round - it won't be clean for long.)
Morgan Gallagher
john nicholls wrote:
> Hi Everyone
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> The hospital where I work, has had its first positive case of swine
> flu in a mother. So the infection control department and paeds has
> recommended that the mother and baby are placed together(thankfully
> ) but the baby must be placed in an incubator when not being
> breastfeed. As it is the first case it is a steep learning curve for all concerned.
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> My questions are
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> If a mother contracts any virus when does she make antibodies?
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> I cant see that nursing the baby in an incubator is the answer,
> surely breastfeeding gives the baby some immunity/protection?
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> Has anyone on the list experience with nursing mothers who are
> positive for swine flu, what protocols are used?
>
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