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The mother was in Scotland, and that probably made a huge difference.  
The law is Scotland is wonderful.  It's illegal to hassle a 
breastfeeding mother, or ask her to stop.  I found it made a huge 
difference to me when I was up on holiday with my toddler.  I was in the 
middle of the "getting uncomfortable again" stage as mine was 18 months 
old at the time.  That inner fear I had in England, just melted away 
after a few hours in Scotland.  I knew that I was pretty safe from being 
harassed, and that if someone did say something to me, I could call for 
help and the person doing the harassing would be dealt with by others.

I wish I could say I was looking forward to the proposed legislation in 
England and Wales, however.  Unlike the Scottish law, which simply says 
it's illegal to harass if a mother is breastfeeding a child up until two 
years of age, the proposed E&W one states a mother may feed a baby to 12 
months, IF the mother is feeding discreetly.  So in other words, it then 
puts mothers in a worse position.  As it stand in England and Wales, 
laws have to be made to outlaw something: so mothers can breastfeed 
anywhere and anyhow, without 'breaking' a rule.  Enshrining 'discreetly' 
without defining it, means anyone can say "she wasn't being discreet".  
And 12 months will make toddler feeding even more problematic.  Again, 
it's setting up a 'standard' which will actually make things worse for 
hungry infants, not better.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2007/jun/13/gender.children

It's interesting, actually.  I'd been told about both the 12 months, and 
the discreet, in conversations.  On searching, the 12 months has clearly 
come up in the news articles.  Can't find mention of the discreet.  Both 
were seriously missing from the original private member's bill, which 
just asked for two years to match the Scottish law.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/6745445.stm

Ah well, fascinating what an hour's research on the web can do.  This is 
the bill, but I can't find the breastfeeding bit!  It's the Single 
Equality Bill, and it's a lumping together of odds and sods of 
'inequality' bits.  A sort of smudge out the bumps and make it all 
smooth in lots of areas, bill.

http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm200506/cmbills/085/06085.i-iv.html

It's the green paper, and that means it's an early draught.  The full 
bill, with explanations of all bits, isn't out yet.  So I suppose... we 
don't actually know what the proposed legislation is.  (If someone can 
find the breastfeeding bit in that link, I'd like to see it)

Interesting on the two year old thing.  I was just recently in the 
Highlands of Scotland with my now three year old.  I still felt safer.  
A child of two, is not that different from a child of three.  And 
knowing that 'till two was protected overtly, I was confident that no 
one would dare make a fuss.

Laws are so important on this.  Mothers don't nurse out of the domestic 
sphere as they feel unsafe.  Laws can make them feel safer.  As can 
wonderfully erudite and compelling logic and support from religious 
figures.  If anyone hasn't seen this, they are in for a treat! Worth 
reading the entire document!

http://www.rabbinicalassembly.org/teshuvot/docs/20052010/artson_breastfeeding.pdf

Morgan Gallagher


Janice Reynolds wrote:
> Here's another example of a kid "getting it"  I don't have permission to
> reprint here, but if you go to the Lactivism forum at mothering.com, a mom
> has shared a wonderful story from a coffee shop in the UK.  Well worth the
> click to get there.
>
> http://www.mothering.com/discussions/showthread.php?t=903272
>
>   

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